I was totally going to bring this up as well. Could you imagine [insert your favorite band name here] doing a tour and just "winging it" every time they played? The results would be disastrous.
slightly off-topic, but even the professionals mess this up. over thanksgiving break last year, i went to see a matinee performance of WICKED. the entire 1st act was hard to hear because the balance with the orchestra was off. so i called the box office at intermission & had them transfer me to the house manager. it was fixed shortly thereafter. (yeah, probably not because of me, but i'll take credit anyway!)
QUOTE (woah05 @ Feb 22 2010, 07:55 PM)
This has been an issue for years, but now people care because it's North Central...
it's not that people care now because it's north central. it's the fact that now a group was disqualified for a rule that seems vague at best. when was the last time a group was DQ'd for this specific reason? if anyone from ISSMA is reading this or anyone who has access to the standards or regulations for ISSMA show choir contests in indiana... if it's out there in writing, i'd like to see it.
How is that fair for early performing groups? So much for a level playing field.
how we do it as Mo-Show is this... Momentum performs their entire show friday night when there are no groups there. all lighting and sound levels are made that night and set so the first group in the day has the same level as all groups all day.
but it sounds like the problems at Ben Davis also happened at Great River... every band just way overplayed the choirs.
from what I understood the issue with NC stemmed from the ISSMA officials, and not the Ben Davis contest officials! It was my understanding that the director of Ben Davis fought to keep NC in finals, but that the ISSMA officials at the contest would not allow it...
This has been an issue for years, but now people care because it's North Central...the problem is not the contests in Indiana, its ISSMA...
I'm not sure what all sites are even qualifiers this year, I know: Ben Davis, DeKalb, North Central, Franklin Central....probably Pike....who else?
"It sucks, but that's the way it is... oh well." The whole point of this site is to be able to discuss things and work for change to make our activity the best it can possibly be... not just roll over and accept things when they're crap.
I agree with you but when a competition has a rule that you don't like the only thing you can do is not go to that competition. I think this topic is good and I am glad it was brought up. It is obvious that if there are competitions with rules out there that could result in a DQ for communicating with a group that a change should be happening.
from what I understood the issue with NC stemmed from the ISSMA officials, and not the Ben Davis contest officials! It was my understanding that the director of Ben Davis fought to keep NC in finals, but that the ISSMA officials at the contest would not allow it...
This has been an issue for years, but now people care because it's North Central...the problem is not the contests in Indiana, its ISSMA...
I'm not sure what all sites are even qualifiers this year, I know: Ben Davis, DeKalb, North Central, Franklin Central....probably Pike....who else?
well as was clarified earlier...the rule in question, isn't even a rule at all. what NC did was fine. so no one gets screwed if it's legal to adjust the sound during performance. So what are we arguing? a nonexistent rule?
Well apparently it isn't a rule at this competition... but I don't know what competitions have what rules out there. Apparently it's a rule somewhere. I'm more championing against this:
QUOTE (KEVDOUG @ Feb 22 2010, 07:41 PM)
It's not fair. It's just the way you do it I guess.
"It sucks, but that's the way it is... oh well." The whole point of this site is to be able to discuss things and work for change to make our activity the best it can possibly be... not just roll over and accept things when they're crap.
Also, if what NC did was "fine," then they shouldn't have been DQ'd. That's a huge problem that also needs discussing.
This sounds like an excuse to justify existing rules to me.
well as was clarified earlier...the rule in question, isn't even a rule at all. what NC did was fine. so no one gets screwed if it's legal to adjust the sound during performance. So what are we arguing? a nonexistent rule?
That is true. I know that I always am "scouting" the stage and sending texts about things to watch out for... unless you are at Cuyahoga Falls, then there is no hope lol.
I believe that would fall under the category of sucky Sound Systems... .
You go and watch (and support) earlier show choirs, and find out a few things:
-stage dimensions ,for lack of a better term.
-How the sound system is (if it sucks, if it's top notch, etc...)
-How the acoustics are
How is that fair for early performing groups? So much for a level playing field.
This is EXACTLY what our choir was always told. When we got off our bus we were always told "make sure you go in and see a few groups." I know we talked in homeroom about how the sound was in the venue. It was just something that we talked about before going to compete ourselves.
So the first group just gets screwed?
This sounds like an excuse to justify existing rules to me.
Ben Davis Giant Spectacular 2010
(yeah, probably not because of me, but i'll take credit anyway!)
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