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 Show Choir Community > Events > 2010 Season > Ben Davis Giant Spectacular 2010


Event Info


February 20th, 2010

Venue Info

Ben Davis High School
1200 N. Girls School Road
Indianapolis, IN 46214

Phone: (317) 244-7691

Event Details

No. of Attending Choirs:

  19 Mixed Groups
  14 Womens Groups
  6 Middle School Groups

Hosts:

  Ben Davis "Premiers"
  Ben Davis "Sounds"
  Ben Davis 9th Grade Center "Preview"

Judges: Unknown

Ticket Prices:

$10 - Prelims
$10 - Finals
$13 - All Day

Map



Ben Davis Giant Spectacular 2010









Awards
Predictions
Photos
Event Site
Live Stream


Finals
 

Groups

 F.C. Singers
 Franklin Central High School
Grand Champion 
Best Vocals 
Best Choreography 

 Classic Connection
 DeKalb High School
First Runner Up 

 Encores
 Pike High School
Second Runner Up 
Best Female Soloist 

 Minstrels
 Bishop Luers High School
3rd Runner Up 
Best Male Soloist 

 Minstrel Magic
 Carroll High School
4th Runner Up 


Womens Finals
 

Groups

 Descants
 North Central High School
First Place 
Best Vocals 

 Sound Sensation
 DeKalb High School
Second Place 
Best Choreography 

 Mystiques
 Pike High School
Third Place 

 High Voltage
 Franklin Central High School
4th Place 


Mixed Division - Tier I (Prelims)
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Mixed Division - Tier II
 

Groups

 City Heat
 Columbia City High School
First Place 

 Northern Lights

 Northridge High School
No Placement 

 Singers

 Batesville High School
No Placement 

 Silver Streak

 Fishers High School
No Placement 

 Singers

 Lebanon High School
No Placement 

 Summit Sound

 Bishop Dwenger High School
No Placement 


Mixed Division - Tier III
 

Groups in order of performance

 Vivace

 Warren Central High School
Placement Unknown 

 Accents

 Avon High School
Placement Unknown 


Womens Division (Prelims)
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Middle School Division
 

Groups in order of performance

 Class Act

 Carmel Middle School
Placement Unknown 

 73rd Street Singers

 Westlane Middle School
Placement Unknown 

 Wave of Youth

 Northwood Middle School
Placement Unknown 

 Young Originals

 Southmont Jr/Sr High School
Placement Unknown 

 Showcase

 South Dearborn Middle School
Placement Unknown 

 Bluettes

 Westlane Middle School
Placement Unknown 

 City Stars

 Indian Springs Middle School
Placement Unknown 


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showchoirrox581 on Mar 7, 2010, 7:40 PM
Post #189
 
Just so you know, here are the results for the middle school division:

Grand Champion- South Dearborn "Showcase"
1st Runner Up- Northwood "Wave of Youth"
2nd Runner Up- Carmel "Class Act"


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observer7 on Mar 3, 2010, 12:37 AM
Post #188
 
To defend myself, I did read that director's post. But that was from a few days prior, and this news was more recent.

Hence, I wanted to see if there had been some update or change to the situation that the BD director had not commented on, since his previous post.

Please don't give me attitude... I was merely trying to determine if this "updated" information was valid or rumor. I've read the majority of this discussion, but as no one had mentioned this rumor of a changed verdict and ISSMA getting involved, I simply wanted to see if there was new information.




thejoshbaker on Feb 27, 2010, 6:05 AM
Post #187
 


QUOTE (observer7 @ Feb 27 2010, 03:16 AM) *

I heard from people at NC that the DQ actually got overturned?? And that they got a qualifying spot for ISSMA despite being unable to compete in finals because ISSMA acknowledged the error?

And apparently it was an issue with the arranger telling the band to be quiet NOT a director, and the arranger was back stage the entire time (not in the audience), but someone got confused and thought it was a member of the NC directing team who entered the back stage area?

Can someone verify any of this?

If that's at all the case, MAJOR screw up on BD's part...



Just 6 scant posts above you, the post from BD's director was quoted explaining the whole thing. I understand not reading the entire discussion, but come on, at least look at the page you're posting on.

Here's the link to the post.




Ilovetosing88 on Feb 27, 2010, 3:31 AM
Post #186
 


QUOTE (applaud @ Feb 26 2010, 10:33 PM) *

check this website

www.Your-photo.com

Realtime Imaging
PO Box 3
Summit Station, Ohio 43073

This is a card that was on the table where you order a dvd




Thanks!


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observer7 on Feb 27, 2010, 3:16 AM
Post #185
 
I heard from people at NC that the DQ actually got overturned?? And that they got a qualifying spot for ISSMA despite being unable to compete in finals because ISSMA acknowledged the error?

And apparently it was an issue with the arranger telling the band to be quiet NOT a director, and the arranger was back stage the entire time (not in the audience), but someone got confused and thought it was a member of the NC directing team who entered the back stage area?

Can someone verify any of this?

If that's at all the case, MAJOR screw up on BD's part...


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applaud on Feb 26, 2010, 10:33 PM
Post #184
 
check this website

www.Your-photo.com

Realtime Imaging
PO Box 3
Summit Station, Ohio 43073

This is a card that was on the table where you order a dvd




Ilovetosing88 on Feb 26, 2010, 10:23 PM
Post #183
 
Does anyone know who did The DVDS for this Competition? Please list there Info also. Thanks



KEVDOUG on Feb 26, 2010, 5:23 PM
Post #182
 


QUOTE (Rian @ Feb 26 2010, 03:58 PM) *


They also broke Rule #3 "No one may leave the performance area once the show has begun"



But there is no stated punishment for that. I am just an advocate in not controlling too many aspects of a show and I feel that this is one of those things. I'm not knocking Ben Davis for this rule because MANY have it and many would have enforced it the same way. I just disagree.


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woah05 on Feb 26, 2010, 5:05 PM (Edited)
Post #181
 
the rule also says"....devices, including, but not limited to...'' meaning that NC broke the rule, the the fact that it was someone telling them directly is just a technicality. they still broke the rule by having someone from the spectator area communicate with them. NC has been very graceful about their penalty and I commend them for it!

Not to get off topic, but I feel like the other schools were totally ignored on this topic, so: I'm giving a huge CONGRATULATIONS to: Franklin Central, DeKalb, Pike, Bishop Luers, and Carroll, as well as the ladies groups from: North Central, DeKalb, Pike, and Franklin Central for their EXCELLENT shows in the finals last saturday!

Especially to DeKalb and Pike who had my favorite shows of the night by long shots!




Rian on Feb 26, 2010, 3:58 PM
Post #180
 


QUOTE (KEVDOUG @ Feb 26 2010, 06:13 AM) *


That's a stretch... I mean a BIG stretch if that's the case. I see no violation based on that rule. A device is exactly that, a device. A mouth is not a device. I also feel a "lowest placement" penalty would have to be a 100% clear violation. I don't think it's clear at all. The wording and what NC did were two opposite things.

Heaven forbid somebody screams "Band you are too loud" during a performance.



They also broke Rule #3 "No one may leave the performance area once the show has begun"


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doesntmatter1290 on Feb 26, 2010, 3:37 PM
Post #179
 


QUOTE (Hersel @ Feb 23 2010, 01:19 AM) *

Good Evening,

Before I get started I would like to say for the record that the ISSMA offcials did not have anything to do with the ruling. It was my call (with the judges input). While I do not have my directors packet in front of me this is how the rules read...

Rules #3 "No one may leave the performance area once the show has begun"
Rule #10 "there is to be no communication from the audience to the performance area including but not limited to... text messaging, walkie talkies, conducting, etc..."

Penalties - lowest possible placement for breach of rule 3 and 10.

These are the current rules for the Giant Spectacular and about 95% of the other contest that I have been to in the past ten years. We have this rule in place because I am fully aware that not every school has the same resources and that not every school can not communicate in the same way from the audience to the stage. One might argue that texting would be an easy solution, but like most schools it is very difficult to get a signal anywhere in my school. This is a rule that my staff and I will be looking at for future events. We will also be sending out a survey to the directors of the schools that attended for their feedback regarding this tradition.

All rules were sent to the directors well in advance, and then again in their packets the day of the contest. I have to admit that breaking the news to Mrs. Weihe that her group would be getting the lowest possible placement was awful. My students and I all really enjoy the bond we have with NC, and admire them very much. It was a difficult rule for me to enforce, but the rule was very clear. In fact I only witnessed this violation by trying to help a member of their staff.

Again, for the record - I am a huge NC fan (and to you sceptics out there I mean that). We had an amazing contest Sat. and the amazing groups that performed are being ignored because of this unfortunate situation. Could we get back to congratulating the choirs for their efforts?

I would be happy to debate or discuss in private with anyone... IM me please.

Hersel



I am just quoting this because people are still wondering what happened even though Hersel (who made the call) cleared it up a while ago.




KEVDOUG on Feb 26, 2010, 6:13 AM (Edited)
Post #178
 


QUOTE (Freak @ Feb 26 2010, 05:32 AM) *

From what I understand, they used a communication device (someone's mouth) to speak with the band director after that someone had walked into the house and back.



That's a stretch... I mean a BIG stretch if that's the case. I see no violation based on that rule. A device is exactly that, a device. A mouth is not a device. I also feel a "lowest placement" penalty would have to be a 100% clear violation. I don't think it's clear at all. The wording and what NC did were two opposite things.

Heaven forbid somebody screams "Band you are too loud" during a performance.




thejoshbaker on Feb 26, 2010, 5:32 AM
Post #177
 
From what I understand, they used a communication device (someone's mouth) to speak with the band director after that someone had walked into the house and back.



KEVDOUG on Feb 26, 2010, 5:20 AM
Post #176
 


QUOTE (QualeSPowers @ Feb 23 2010, 08:37 PM) *


10. You may not use any communication device including but not limited to
walkie-talkies, cell phones,
text messaging, etc. to send messages from any spectator area to
the director during the performance.



If this is the rule they are accused of breaking... how did they?


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shellybeanxox3 on Feb 26, 2010, 12:34 AM
Post #175
 


QUOTE (josh06 @ Feb 23 2010, 05:33 AM) *

So Did NC do the same thing happen with the Descants? cuz they won...

Not tryna be rude just curious....



No. The Descants do not share a band director with CP nor is the band the same. And we did have band issues during finals, but clearly those didn't matter that much.


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applaud on Feb 25, 2010, 4:18 PM
Post #174
 
I would just like to clarify what I think is a point that no one has mentioned about NC Counterpoints being dq'd. The band was performing off stage in the wings, not onstage in back of the choir. If anyone has ever tried that, you would know how difficult that really is, but they made that adjustment to be able to add another riser for the choir's program.

I did not see the other groups so I do not know if any other choirs' band performed off stage. For Counterpoints, the entire choir was relying on what they could hear from the wing the band was playing from, but more so, what they were hearing in the floor monitors. It is a "live and learn" situation, but it was not an intentional violation.

I am very proud of how NC CPs have handled themselves. While they were dissappointed for themselves, they were supportive of every other choir that made it to the finals. They also had to sit there and watch while the other NC women's choir, Descants, performed in the finals (which they won-congrats!) and I never heard one single compaint. I'm proud to be a Counterpoints supporter and wish them the best at the FC Hoosier Classic.

With so many great show choirs in Indiana, you all push each other to be better, it is a pleasure to watch!


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mm-78 on Feb 25, 2010, 11:49 AM
Post #173
 


QUOTE (woah05 @ Feb 22 2010, 11:55 PM) *



I'm not sure what all sites are even qualifiers this year, I know: Ben Davis, DeKalb, North Central, Franklin Central....probably Pike....who else?



2010 Carroll Classic is a ISSMA State Qualifier. There is a post of who is coming elsewhere on this site.


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monkeymoose1 on Feb 24, 2010, 10:12 PM
Post #172
 
Scratch everthing about luers and issma..I misunderstood sorry:/

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glittergal on Feb 24, 2010, 3:51 AM
Post #171
 
hahahahaha.

this drama is tooooo much.
it'll be nice to see how this weekend pans out sans dq's.


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techie on Feb 24, 2010, 12:31 AM
Post #170
 


QUOTE (tscott @ Feb 23 2010, 04:33 AM) *

The number of competing groups at a given competition out here varies from as few as six to over 50. And only one venue that I know of schedules time for choir sound checks. Most do not. And we allow use of radio communications.

Such radios do not need to interfere with audio. Television shows have literally hundreds of staff and crew on wireless IFB (interruptible fold back) systems (aka wireless ITE or In The Ear systems) and walkie-talkies all at the same time without interfering with house or recording audio whatsoever.




Technology has come so far since show choir was started that you are right, the good wireless communication systems won't interfere, mostly just the cheaper "Radio Shack" type, especially now that everything has gone digital, etc. I think it is one of those rules that has just always been around and no-one really gave it a second thought until something like this happens. Great information though.
Thanks for the insight.

P.S. Since I'm stuck here in snowy Indiana, I haven't heard much about John Burroughs show this year. (I'm sure it's in a thread somewhere) I absolutely loved last year.



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