so only 6 varsity groups? so everyone is in finals wow i dont think i have ever been to a small comp like this, but i think i will it will still be great!! I really cant wait for this one!!
QUOTE(Jorge @ Feb 19 2007, 02:58 PM) [snapback]385609[/snapback]
Wow... this is going to be a small competition.
I'll predict the top three...
Grand Champion- Totino Grace
1st Runner Up- Sioux City East
2nd Runner Up- Davenport West
Totino caption sweep.
You might want to add Johnston Innovation in there. Granted - they won't be anywhere near CRJ, but that didn't stop them from being called first for finals last year!
QUOTE(ana @ Feb 19 2007, 01:45 PM) [snapback]385575[/snapback]
Cedar Rapids Jefferson Performance Schedule (Gym):
Saturday, March 10
9:00am SIOUX CITY EAST HIGH SCHOOL "Impulse" (PREP)
9:30am WEST DELAWARE HIGH SCHOOL "Crescendo" (PREP)
10:00am BENTON COMMUNITY HIGH SCHOOL "Jubilation, Inc." (PREP)
10:30am DAVENPORT WEST HIGH SCHOOL "Harmonics" (PREP)
11:00am TOTINO GRACE HIGH SCHOOL "Encore Singers" (PREP)
11:30am SIOUX CITY EAST HIGH SCHOOL "New Sound" (PREP)
12:00pm FAIRFIELD HIGH SCHOOL "Expressions" (PREP)
12:30pm LUNCH BREAK
1:30pm WEST DELAWARE HIGH SCHOOL "WD Forte" (VARSITY/4A)
2:00pm DAVENPORT WEST HIGH SCHOOL "West Connection" (VARSITY/4A)
2:30pm FAIRFIELD HIGH SCHOOL "Fusion" (VARSITY/4A)
3:00pm BREAK
3:30pm TOTINO GRACE HIGH SCHOOL "Company of Singers" (VARSITY/4A)
4:00pm SIOUX CITY EAST HIGH SCHOOL "The Headliners" (VARSITY/4A)
4:30pm GRAND ISLAND HIGH SCHOOL "Islander Prestige" (VARSITY/4A)
Cedar Rapids Jefferson Performance Schedule (Gym):
Saturday, March 10
9:00am SIOUX CITY EAST HIGH SCHOOL "Impulse" (PREP)
9:30am WEST DELAWARE HIGH SCHOOL "Crescendo" (PREP)
10:00am BENTON COMMUNITY HIGH SCHOOL "Jubilation, Inc." (PREP)
10:30am DAVENPORT WEST HIGH SCHOOL "Harmonics" (PREP)
11:00am TOTINO GRACE HIGH SCHOOL "Encore Singers" (PREP)
11:30am SIOUX CITY EAST HIGH SCHOOL "New Sound" (PREP)
12:00pm FAIRFIELD HIGH SCHOOL "Expressions" (PREP)
12:30pm LUNCH BREAK
1:30pm WEST DELAWARE HIGH SCHOOL "WD Forte" (VARSITY/4A)
2:00pm DAVENPORT WEST HIGH SCHOOL "West Connection" (VARSITY/4A)
2:30pm FAIRFIELD HIGH SCHOOL "Fusion" (VARSITY/4A)
3:00pm BREAK
3:30pm TOTINO GRACE HIGH SCHOOL "Company of Singers" (VARSITY/4A)
4:00pm SIOUX CITY EAST HIGH SCHOOL "The Headliners" (VARSITY/4A)
4:30pm GRAND ISLAND HIGH SCHOOL "Islander Prestige" (VARSITY/4A)
its really a matter of individualized judging (this many judges for vocals, this many for choreo, etc...) vs. combined judging (the same judges adjudicate everything)
QUOTE(adancinmomma @ Feb 16 2007, 04:58 PM) [snapback]384592[/snapback]
In answer to your vocal/choreography judge question:
This really isn't something that is different "per state", but ranges per competition. Each individual competition determines how they want to run and judge each. At some compeitions I am asked to judge the entire show (Vocals/choreography/combo/overall) and at some competitions I am asked to only judge choreography. It is that competitions choice, but usually in finals regardless of how prelims were run--everyone judges everything and usually judges are added.
In answer to your vocal/choreography judge question:
This really isn't something that is different "per state", but ranges per competition. Each individual competition determines how they want to run and judge each. At some compeitions I am asked to judge the entire show (Vocals/choreography/combo/overall) and at some competitions I am asked to only judge choreography. It is that competitions choice, but usually in finals regardless of how prelims were run--everyone judges everything and usually judges are added.
This might be a silly question, but here it goes: In Indiana you have your choreography judges and vocal judges, when we attended the Watseka Invite last year there were 3 or 4 judges and they all judged on vocals AND choreography, so my question is In Iowa how does judging work?
QUOTE(Mr. Temple @ Feb 13 2007, 11:02 AM) [snapback]383465[/snapback]
I wish that more out of state groups could/would attend competitions in Iowa. However, I'm in full support of the all student band. I've heard the arguments that it's unfair for the whole show choir to suffer just because there is a lack of talented musicians at the school. That argument just doesn't hold water for me. That's like saying that it's unfair for your whole basketball team to suffer just because you don't have a big man. Lets change the rules to allow schools to pay a 6' 10" guy who played semi-pro to fill that spot.
Show choir is art and it is competitive, but it is above all educational. Students should be in the band learning what it's like to play this type of show. Show choir is one of the best ways for a student musician to learn how important it is to go out and repeat the same consistent performance day after day just like they would be expected to do if they were playing professionally for a Vegas show or a Broadway musical.
You get the talent you've got in your school. We'll all have ups and downs because of changes in the students and talent level in the group whether it's band members or singer/dancers.
I think the performer sharing rule should be waived when we're talking about mixed groups vs. Single-Gender groups. I don't think students should be in both the varsity and the prep group though.
Aside from that there aren't many rules unless they are imposed by the competition itself. We don't allow fog machines, confetti, or pyrotechnics at our competition because we've had problems with the big messes left by them putting the competition way behind schedule.
We don't limit the number of performers. We don't require you to use a certain set. We don't paint you into a certain performance area. We don't require you to sing a capella. We don't limit the length of your show (most do limit the total performance time, but if you can setup and tear down lightning quick your show can be 20 some minutes long).
I agree with this.... Obviously the rules aren't horrible because Iowa groups still compete in Iowa. They are just some silly rules, and while some are dumb, other's are reasonable.
QUOTE(Sparky1 @ Feb 13 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]383452[/snapback]
I personally know of three groups this year that decided NOT to go back to Iowa because of all the excessive and (dare i say, stupid) rules. Wake up Iowa, thats the very thing that killed Showstoppers!!
I know you were trying to make the playing field "fair" and "even", but this is ART not sport. Albeit competitive art, but you cant put too many rules in place and expect that every creative program can adhere to those. Art is creative, using the resources available to you. Period. Sure it would be great if every program across the country had unlimited resources of talented students and an abundance of student instrumentalists available only to the show choir, but we all know thats not a reality. Iowas attempt to overstructuralize the competitive aspect of the art form has perhaps gone to far. At the very least Iowa will eventually suffer from the lack of groups wanting to come to their competitions.
I wish that more out of state groups could/would attend competitions in Iowa. However, I'm in full support of the all student band. I've heard the arguments that it's unfair for the whole show choir to suffer just because there is a lack of talented musicians at the school. That argument just doesn't hold water for me. That's like saying that it's unfair for your whole basketball team to suffer just because you don't have a big man. Lets change the rules to allow schools to pay a 6' 10" guy who played semi-pro to fill that spot.
Show choir is art and it is competitive, but it is above all educational. Students should be in the band learning what it's like to play this type of show. Show choir is one of the best ways for a student musician to learn how important it is to go out and repeat the same consistent performance day after day just like they would be expected to do if they were playing professionally for a Vegas show or a Broadway musical.
You get the talent you've got in your school. We'll all have ups and downs because of changes in the students and talent level in the group whether it's band members or singer/dancers.
I think the performer sharing rule should be waived when we're talking about mixed groups vs. Single-Gender groups. I don't think students should be in both the varsity and the prep group though.
Aside from that there aren't many rules unless they are imposed by the competition itself. We don't allow fog machines, confetti, or pyrotechnics at our competition because we've had problems with the big messes left by them putting the competition way behind schedule.
We don't limit the number of performers. We don't require you to use a certain set. We don't paint you into a certain performance area. We don't require you to sing a capella. We don't limit the length of your show (most do limit the total performance time, but if you can setup and tear down lightning quick your show can be 20 some minutes long).
QUOTE(Sparky1 @ Feb 13 2007, 10:41 AM) [snapback]383452[/snapback]
I personally know of three groups this year that decided NOT to go back to Iowa because of all the excessive and (dare i say, stupid) rules. Wake up Iowa, thats the very thing that killed Showstoppers!!
I know you were trying to make the playing field "fair" and "even", but this is ART not sport. Albeit competitive art, but you cant put too many rules in place and expect that every creative program can adhere to those. Art is creative, using the resources available to you. Period. Sure it would be great if every program across the country had unlimited resources of talented students and an abundance of student instrumentalists available only to the show choir, but we all know thats not a reality. Iowas attempt to overstructuralize the competitive aspect of the art form has perhaps gone to far. At the very least Iowa will eventually suffer from the lack of groups wanting to come to their competitions.
I hope someday some fresh blood slips into the IHSMA to change some of these goofy rules, until then... we Iowans are stuck and just have to live with it.
I personally know of three groups this year that decided NOT to go back to Iowa because of all the excessive and (dare i say, stupid) rules. Wake up Iowa, thats the very thing that killed Showstoppers!!
I know you were trying to make the playing field "fair" and "even", but this is ART not sport. Albeit competitive art, but you cant put too many rules in place and expect that every creative program can adhere to those. Art is creative, using the resources available to you. Period. Sure it would be great if every program across the country had unlimited resources of talented students and an abundance of student instrumentalists available only to the show choir, but we all know thats not a reality. Iowas attempt to overstructuralize the competitive aspect of the art form has perhaps gone to far. At the very least Iowa will eventually suffer from the lack of groups wanting to come to their competitions.
QUOTE(snugbugck @ Feb 11 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]382803[/snapback]
i guess becaus i live in iowa i never realized the difference of rules from all the other states. i can see how that would greatly affect wheather out of staters come or not. But i'm still so excited for the competition and east will be bringing all there groups and i'm sure we have good competition for all of them. GOOD LUCK to everyone competing!!!!!!!!
i guess becaus i live in iowa i never realized the difference of rules from all the other states. i can see how that would greatly affect wheather out of staters come or not. But i'm still so excited for the competition and east will be bringing all there groups and i'm sure we have good competition for all of them. GOOD LUCK to everyone competing!!!!!!!!
QUOTE(~*Rawr*~ @ Feb 11 2007, 02:09 PM) [snapback]382642[/snapback]
Um if your director is playing? Then I am not sure. In our case are combo has had the highest score at both Pleasant Hill and Troy Compitions but because one of our members is in college and the other is an adult we are never able to win. So If both are playing then maybe...
No the director does not play, but I wasn't sure if you were aloud to have an adult outside of your director.
Cedar Rapids Jefferson Show Choir Invitational 2007
