After watching Powerhouse's performance on the pop show, (maybe 15 times?) anyone who is going to this competition is going to be in for a treat! Truly a competition for the ages coming up in 2 weeks!
But there isn't a smaller margin between 5th and 6th compared to 1st and 2nd; both margins have a difference of two...
Thanks, captain obvious! I guess I figured when I said "many competitions" it would be clear that I am fully capable of subtraction and comparison of numbers, and was proposing that there are competitions that actually do have the point spreads of which I was speaking
The 21, 19, etc. point distribution is what many competitions do for rankings in finals. The way many have it set up is to have a bigger point split between 1st and 2nd, which rewards groups for getting a winning rank, and have a smaller margin between 5 and 6, to make less of a "tanking" effect of awarding a 6th place.
But there isn't a smaller margin between 5th and 6th compared to 1st and 2nd; both margins have a difference of two...
If what you're saying is true, a point spread should be similar to the following:
No placement: 0 pts
6th Place: 1 pts
5th Place: 3 pts
4th Place: 6 pts
3rd Place: 10 pts
2nd Place: 15 pts
1st Place: 21 its
Each higher rank has a progressively larger margin compared to the previous placement.
The 21, 19, etc. point distribution is what many competitions do for rankings in finals. The way many have it set up is to have a bigger point split between 1st and 2nd, which rewards groups for getting a winning rank, and have a smaller margin between 5 and 6, to make less of a "tanking" effect of awarding a 6th place.
Even though this is a very strange way to accumulate predictions, I kind of like it haha. I do have a question though:
Thanks for the feedback! I don't have any reason for the math other than I stole it from competitions like Monona Grove and Brodhead. After looking at the rankings and conversions I just felt like it was a very accurate way to decide the ranks. But I also took your suggestion and the results ended the same way with an exception that Carmel snuck ahead of Buffalo by two points!
So I've decided to combine everyone's predictions again! I did it for Great River too and as a community we were pretty close!
GC: John Burroughs (BB)
1RU: Waubonsie (BV BC BB)
2RU: Hastings (BV BB)
3RU: Carmel (TIE)
3RU: Buffalo Grove (TIE)
5RU: Wheaton North
6RU: Naperville
For each placement GC through 5RU the respective points were given 21, 19, 16, 14, 11, 9.
So for example John Burrough's score was calculated using this method (7*21)+(4*19)+(1*16)+(0*14)+(0*11)+(0*9)= 239
Another example with Wheaton North's score (0*21)+(1*19)+(0*16)+(2*14)+(1*11)+(5*9)= 103
For BV, BC, BB I simply tallied how many times a user awarded the respective caption to each group.
Of course this isn't a perfect system as there were some early predictions but I wanted everyone who put in predictions be heard! It'd be pretty cool if as a community we could predict results! Good luck to all groups!
Oh, and I will ACTUALLY be updating the combined predictions as more predictions roll in
Even though this is a very strange way to accumulate predictions, I kind of like it haha. I do have a question though:
What is the mathematical basis for this point distribution? Wouldn't it make just as much or more sense to award first place as 1 point, second place as 2 points, and so on, calculating for lowest score and using that as a basis for predictions? Right now your point values start at an arbitrary 21 then fluctuate between 2 less, 3 less, 2 less, 3 less, and 2 less. Or to make things even easier, you could calculate first as 6pts, second at 5pts, and continue to subtract one point for every placement higher until you reach zero , where zero equals no placement in the top 6.
Also, for accounting purposes with your current set-up, you should include a category that shows how many times a predictor did not place the group in the top 6 and multiply by zero. This way you can accurately keep track of the number of predictions made.
Agree to disagree. This was prelim results at Onalaska 2004-
1st- Buffalo Grove (Top Choreography score in the afternoon)
2nd- La Crosse Central
3rd- Mt. Zion
4th- Eisenhower
5th- Totino Grace
6th- Franklin Central
7th- Urbandale
8th- Teays Valley
9th- Omaha Westside (Top Vocal score in the afternoon)
10th- Fort Atkinson
11th- Mitchell
12th- Sauk Prairie
13th- Waconia
14th- Crete Monee
15th- Bemidji
16th- Iowa City West
17th- Wheaton Warrenville
18th- Milton
19th- Altoona
20th- Brodhead
21th- Urbandale "Vitality"
22th- Linn-Mar
23th- La Crosse Logan
24th- Parkview
25th- Washburn
26th- Hudson
27th- Neenah
28th- DePere
I am saying that WWS 2014 was just as stacked as WWS 2016. Which is why I said 'Don't have to go back that far.'
The OP said 'Has there ever been another competition as incredibly stacked as THIS one in show choir history'
Don't have to go back that far. WWS 2014 was just as stacked. Mt. Zion and Solon didn't make finals. MZ then went on to win Fame Nationals.
Agree to disagree. This was prelim results at Onalaska 2004-
1st- Buffalo Grove (Top Choreography score in the afternoon)
2nd- La Crosse Central
3rd- Mt. Zion
4th- Eisenhower
5th- Totino Grace
6th- Franklin Central
7th- Urbandale
8th- Teays Valley
9th- Omaha Westside (Top Vocal score in the afternoon)
10th- Fort Atkinson
11th- Mitchell
12th- Sauk Prairie
13th- Waconia
14th- Crete Monee
15th- Bemidji
16th- Iowa City West
17th- Wheaton Warrenville
18th- Milton
19th- Altoona
20th- Brodhead
21th- Urbandale "Vitality"
22th- Linn-Mar
23th- La Crosse Logan
24th- Parkview
25th- Washburn
26th- Hudson
27th- Neenah
28th- DePere
This comp is STILL talked about regularly at our school. I wish it would happen again! Apparently some of the groups performed Friday night and the rest went Saturday. So so so crazy!
28 varsity groups. IT. WAS. INSANE. Soooo happy I went.
This comp is STILL talked about regularly at our school. I wish it would happen again! Apparently some of the groups performed Friday night and the rest went Saturday. So so so crazy!
Unless a miracle happens, I don't think any competition will come close to it. It was wayyy before my time with the show choir world so obviously my knowledge of who was the best at that time was limited but I can't imagine what it would've been like to just attend and watch ALL of those groups
QUOTE (abe.martinez @ Feb 25 2016, 08:09 PM)
So what you're saying is you guys are hosting every SCC member in your room
Yes, but only if it ends up becoming a sequined toga party
Just got a hotel room booked Friday through Sunday for Alex and I! Can't believe this is already a couple of weeks away and man it's gonna be a great competition!
So what you're saying is you guys are hosting every SCC member in your room
Also updated combined predictions:
GC: John Burroughs (BC)
1RU: Waubonsie (BV BC)
2RU: Hastings (BB)
3RU: Buffalo Grove
4RU: Carmel
5RU: Wheaton North
6RU: Naperville
Wheaton Warrenville South Choral Classic 2016
