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 Show Choir Community > Events > 2015 > John Hersey Chicagoland Showcase (Day Two) 2015


Event Info


March 7th, 2015
  8:30am

Venue Info

John Hersey High School
1900 E. Thomas Street
Arlington Heights, IL 60004

Phone: (847) 718-4800

Event Details

No. of Attending Choirs:

  12 Mixed Groups
  6 Womens Groups

Hosts:

  John Hersey "OnStage"
  John Hersey "Ladies First"

Judges:

  Ly Wilder (Vocal)
  Susan Moninger (Vocal)
  Paul Gulsvig (Vocal)
  Brennan Wilder (Visual)
  Tony Gibson (Visual)
  Mark Lindvahl (Band)

Ticket Prices:

All Day
$15 Adults
$10 Students/Seniors

Prelims Only
$10 Adults
$8 Students/Seniors

Finals Only
$10 Adults
$8 Students/Seniors

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John Hersey Chicagoland Showcase (Day Two) 2015









Awards
Photos
TBA
Live Stream
Event Site


 Finals
 

Groups

 Sound Check
 Waubonsie Valley High School
Grand Champion 
Best Vocals 
Best Choreography 

 Ambassadors
 Carmel High School
First Runner Up 
Best Crew 

 Titan Fever
 Glenwood High School
Second Runner Up 

 Expressions
 Buffalo Grove High School
3rd Runner Up 
Best Band 

 Flight
 Wheaton North High School
4th Runner Up 

 Mixed Company
 Prospect High School
5th Runner Up 
Best Male Soloist (Marc Ford) 
Best Female Soloist (Natalie Carioti) 


 Mixed Division - Tier I (Prelims)
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 Mixed Division - Tier II
 

Groups

 Encore
 Harold L. Richards High School
First Place 

 Cadence
 Carmel Catholic High School
Second Place 


 Womens Division
 

Groups

 Accents
 Carmel High School
First Place 

 Girls in Heels
 Waubonsie Valley High School
Second Place 

 Company
 Prospect High School
Third Place 

 Leading Ladies

 Rolling Meadows High School
No Placement 

 Legacy

 Batavia High School
No Placement 

 Octave Above

 Milton High School
No Placement 


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bobatea4me on Mar 11, 2015, 4:52 AM
Post #92
 
I agree KhoirKing...quite an astute observation!

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KhoirKing on Mar 11, 2015, 4:25 AM
Post #91
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I have a greater understanding of Quantum Mechanics and Modern Art than I do of the logic behind the infinitely overcomplicated and remarkably inconsistent design of the show choir Scoresheet. And, when you add in the fact that competition Prelims and Finals are often judged on different terms, the existence of a coherent, logical explanation becomes a near impossibility. It would be like the NCAA seeding it's Tournament based on the country's best collegiate basketball teams and then crowning their eventual Champion based on the outcome of a Hockey game. It's just weird...and my hats off to everyone who is able to keep this stuff in the background where it belongs and continue to deliver amazingly high levels of entertainment like we were privileged to at this competition.

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susanp on Mar 11, 2015, 2:31 AM
Post #90
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QUOTE (lowbass @ Mar 10 2015, 08:51 PM) *



My question is more specifically HOW it was judged. Was it in fact 3/5ths vocal over choreography (as opposed to 50/50), and did each judge score ONLY on their specific caption alone, or did they have a section for the other side as it were as well?



My understanding is that during prelims, the 3 vocal judges only judged vocals, and the same for the 2 visuals judges. During finals, they all judged everything. Not sure how I feel about that...




lowbass on Mar 10, 2015, 8:51 PM
Post #89
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QUOTE (tscott @ Mar 10 2015, 07:44 PM) *

Who were the judges here? That's always telling.


Vocal judges: Ly Wilder, Susan Moninger, and Paul Gulsvig
Visual judges: Brennan Wilder and Tony Gibson
Instrumental judge: Mark Lindvahl

My question is more specifically HOW it was judged. Was it in fact 3/5ths vocal over choreography (as opposed to 50/50), and did each judge score ONLY on their specific caption alone, or did they have a section for the other side as it were as well?

The final rankings did come out as I thought they might - it was a tough pill for me to put Buffalo Grove in 4th, because I really dug that show (the choreography and design is just amazing to me), but even without taking the possibility of 3/5 being the vocal component, I tend to hold things higher along vocal lines anyway, and for me that hurt BG a little bit - and thought Carmel's show really came together in finals enough to bump them up to 2nd (I had them in 5th in prelims - the show seemed really frazzled to me, but a lot seemed sorted out to me when I saw it again later - and that helped their vocals come through more).

It was a great contest - with a number of groups of similar ability that could obviously flip places the following week.


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tscott on Mar 10, 2015, 7:44 PM
Post #88
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QUOTE (juliofrommississippi @ Mar 10 2015, 06:15 PM) *


I have really noticed a disconnect between what judges see and what the audience sees.


Who were the judges here? That's always telling.




juliofrommississippi on Mar 10, 2015, 6:15 PM
Post #87
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QUOTE (aunieb @ Mar 09 2015, 02:09 AM) *

Perhaps there is now a disconnect in between what the audience likes to see and hear and what the judges look for? Or just riding on the reputation of their "name?"



I have really noticed a disconnect between what judges see and what the audience sees. I do think some of it is judges are afraid to be the ones to score an upset. They don't want their reputation as a judge tarnished, so they stick with the names/styles they know.

I think JWill is right that a lot of it is the scoresheets used these days. I have noticed there are many competitions that have multiple categories in the realm of "execution" or "effectiveness" of choreography. I have seen scoresheets that give more points to costuming and props than song choices and show design. I've seen scoresheets that are very specific, and scoresheets that are much more general. The more general ones tend to produce results that the audience will agree with. Very very specific scoresheets have made for some interesting results that audiences have come away from the competition wondering what happened. There COULD be a large discussion on scoring in show choir, but I don't know if there is a big appetite/consensus on how that should go.


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bobatea4me on Mar 10, 2015, 6:04 PM (Edited by bobatea4me)
Post #86
 
I really enjoyed Madison Central's Mardi Gras themed show, but I question whipping those beads out into the audience. I saw a few people get hit and one older lady got smacked really hard in the face and WAS NOT pleased! Maybe they could just toss them to the first 2 or 3 rows and then they wouldn't feel like they have to throw them so hard. (Fun show though!)

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bobatea4me on Mar 10, 2015, 5:56 PM
Post #85
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The Buffalo Grove soloist who won is named Milan Babic. (Pronounced: Me-lon Bob-bich)😊

quote name='rosslemke26' date='1425774557' post='564416']Outstanding crew: Carmel Ambassadors
Best Instrumental: Buffalo Grove
Best Female Solo In show: Prospect (Natalie Cariote)
Best Male Solo in a show: Prospect (Mike something..)

Solo comp winners:
Male: Mylon Babeck-Buffalo Grove (might of butchered the name)
Female: Marley McLane-Madison Central

Festival division:
1RU: Carmel Cadence
GC: HL Richards Encore

Single-Gender:
2RU: Prospect Company
1RU: Waubonsie Girls In Heels
GC: Carmel Accents

Finalists in Performance Order:
Wheaton North Flight
Buffalo Grove Expressions
Glenwood Titan Fever
Prospect Mixed Company
Waubonsie Valley Sound Check
Carmel Ambassadors[/quote]


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Ambassababe15 on Mar 10, 2015, 5:22 PM
Post #84
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QUOTE (JWill @ Mar 09 2015, 11:38 PM) *


I'll take a stab at it: Judges judge by artificially compartmented categories on the score sheet, audiences judge by overall impact of the show. Carmel sang and danced very well, but lacked an interesting show design. The score sheet de-emphasizes show design, energy, and emotion in favor of mechanics.


By interesting show design you mean, opener, ballad, boys number, girls number, closer? Because if you saw Chicagoland, Carmel and Milton were the only shows that did something unique and different.


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camasterson96 on Mar 10, 2015, 1:53 PM
Post #83
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QUOTE (JWill @ Mar 09 2015, 11:38 PM) *


I'll take a stab at it: Judges judge by artificially compartmented categories on the score sheet, audiences judge by overall impact of the show. Carmel sang and danced very well, but lacked an interesting show design. The score sheet de-emphasizes show design, energy, and emotion in favor of mechanics.


Alright. Well, being one of the crew members of the Ambassadors set. I have never seen them work so hard before on that set. Every time before their final performance at Chicagoland was average. But when they performed it at finals, as someone who has seen it 10 times before, I was blown away. I could not believe how wonderful and magnificent they worked. They worked their butts off during that set and they made it the best they'be ever done. I am extremely proud of them and they earned 1st runner up.




FindYourStage on Mar 10, 2015, 2:17 AM
Post #82
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QUOTE (JWill @ Mar 09 2015, 11:38 PM) *


I'll take a stab at it: Judges judge by artificially compartmented categories on the score sheet, audiences judge by overall impact of the show. Carmel sang and danced very well, but lacked an interesting show design. The score sheet de-emphasizes show design, energy, and emotion in favor of mechanics.


I would argue that Carmel's "show design" was actually a bit more creative...and i think they peformed with plenty of energy and emotion...

I am not saying that I am also not a bit suprised by their placement. I personally had them in 4th, but I could see how the pureness of their vocal tone that carried throughout the show could have given them a really good vocal score, and the creativity and stylistic changes in their choreography was great.

I think that the entire competition was just very close between the top 5 groups. It could have swung any way.




JWill on Mar 9, 2015, 11:38 PM (Edited by JWill)
Post #81
 


QUOTE (aunieb @ Mar 09 2015, 02:09 AM) *

I am simply curious.

Why is it that people seem to have expected Carmel to be placed lower than it is? I am not bashing anybody, just honestly curious as to why this seems to be the case. I realize before the competition it seems the stars were not aligned for them due to the director change and recent off year, but what in their (finals) show made people not place them so well?

Again, just honestly curious as an old alumnus from back in the day. Perhaps there is now a disconnect in between what the audience likes to see and hear and what the judges look for? Or just riding on the reputation of their "name?" Although that last one might not be so true due to the very large number of well known, quality programs here, but it still must be taken into consideration.

Stay classy folks.

PS This is mostly due to the large amount of likes accrued on posts created after the results were published and that were specifically in response to the outcomes. Again, no hard feelings!



I'll take a stab at it: Judges judge by artificially compartmented categories on the score sheet, audiences judge by overall impact of the show. Carmel sang and danced very well, but lacked an interesting show design. The score sheet de-emphasizes show design, energy, and emotion in favor of mechanics.


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aunieb on Mar 9, 2015, 2:09 AM
Post #80
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I am simply curious.

Why is it that people seem to have expected Carmel to be placed lower than it is? I am not bashing anybody, just honestly curious as to why this seems to be the case. I realize before the competition it seems the stars were not aligned for them due to the director change and recent off year, but what in their (finals) show made people not place them so well?

Again, just honestly curious as an old alumnus from back in the day. Perhaps there is now a disconnect in between what the audience likes to see and hear and what the judges look for? Or just riding on the reputation of their "name?" Although that last one might not be so true due to the very large number of well known, quality programs here, but it still must be taken into consideration.

Stay classy folks.

PS This is mostly due to the large amount of likes accrued on posts created after the results were published and that were specifically in response to the outcomes. Again, no hard feelings!


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Ambassababe15 on Mar 8, 2015, 7:02 PM
Post #79
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QUOTE (jdgold92 @ Mar 08 2015, 06:01 AM) *

Anyone else in the gym all day confused by these results? Don't want to cause trouble but wow.

Carmel in 2? Wheaton N in 5th? BG in 4th?

I don't get it. Must have been incredibly close.



Not at all, Carmel's vocals and ability to tell a fantastic story that affected the audience is no small feat.


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susanp on Mar 8, 2015, 6:43 AM (Edited by susanp)
Post #78
 


QUOTE (jdgold92 @ Mar 08 2015, 06:01 AM) *

Anyone else in the gym all day confused by these results? Don't want to cause trouble but wow.

Carmel in 2? Wheaton N in 5th? BG in 4th?

I don't get it. Must have been incredibly close.



I agree with you! I correctly predicted GC and 5RU and was completely off on the rest! FWIW - here is what I had after finals.

GC - WV sweep
1RU - Glenwood
2RU - Buffalo Grove
3RU - Wheaton North
4RU - Carmel
5RU - Prospect

The 6 finalists all performed very well, but I really enjoyed Glenwood and thought they really brought it. Their choreo is very good. I like Wheaton's show concept more than BG, but thought BG performed better in finals than WN. I really didn't like Carmel's show. It just lost me. They are good performers, but I just didn't get the whole Willy Wonka thing...but then I wasn't judging!! It's late and I think I'm becoming incoherent - good night all!


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jdgold92 on Mar 8, 2015, 6:01 AM
Post #77
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Anyone else in the gym all day confused by these results? Don't want to cause trouble but wow.

Carmel in 2? Wheaton N in 5th? BG in 4th?

I don't get it. Must have been incredibly close.




Caleb :P on Mar 8, 2015, 5:32 AM
Post #76
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QUOTE (Caleb @ Mar 02 2015, 11:37 PM) *

I think things will be a lot closer that some people are predicting. I'm betting Waubonsie wins, but not by much. Also, I think Waubonsie won't sweep.

Crazy Predictions--
GC: Waubonsie
1RU: Carmel (vocals)
2RU: Glenwood (visuals)
3RU: Buffalo Grove
4RU: Wheaton North
5RU: Madison Central

I'll add--I haven't seen any of these shows live



At least my placements were on point lol




Jeff. on Mar 8, 2015, 5:20 AM
Post #75
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Results posted.

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corn_man on Mar 8, 2015, 1:20 AM
Post #74
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Predictions based on what I saw in prelims:

GC: Waubonsie BC
1RU: Buffalo Grove BB
2RU: Wheaton North BV
3RU: Carmel
4RU: Glenwood
5RU: Prospect

Very excited to see finals and how it all shakes out in the end!


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ShowChoirCritic5 on Mar 8, 2015, 1:03 AM
Post #73
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Predictions based off of prelims:
GC: Waubonsie Valley (BV,BC)
1RU: Carmel
2RU: Buffalo Grove
3RU: Wheaton North
4RU: Glenwood
5RU: Prospect

This will be very close. It depends on who brings it during finals!



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