QUOTE(Sparky1 @ Feb 3 2009, 07:58 PM) [snapback]451534[/snapback]
thank you... my point exactly. same show, different songs maybe, different color clothes maybe, different order of the exact same moves maybe, but same show. when competition rather than artistic merit became the driving force behind show choir, everyone started looking the same. even at the same school from year to year... new kids, new clothes, new songs, same show. that, to ME, is "cookie cutter".
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A guy goes out for dinner with his mother and look what he misses!
I will agree in part with the notion that the Midwest can be a bit "cookie cutter" in its approach to show choir, but I also think every area with any number of competitive show choirs falls victim to this complaint. The South in particular features groups that do basically the same thing (and absolutely look the same), and even SoCal groups share a similar aesthetic amongst themselves.
I don't think this always has to be a bad thing. No one wants to watch an entirely derivative show, but show choir is a tool for music education and borrowing what works from another group can sometimes result in an improvement for that program.
QUOTE(Sparky1 @ Feb 3 2009, 06:58 PM) [snapback]451534[/snapback]
thank you... my point exactly. same show, different songs maybe, different color clothes maybe, different order of the exact same moves maybe, but same show. when competition rather than artistic merit became the driving force behind show choir, everyone started looking the same. even at the same school from year to year... new kids, new clothes, new songs, same show. that, to ME, is "cookie cutter".
Does Spain Park in your opinion break free from the cookie cutter mold?
QUOTE(tscott @ Feb 3 2009, 03:08 PM) [snapback]451495[/snapback]
Go to any of the companies websites that photograph competitions and look at the photos of all the groups. With rare exception does anyone look very different; usually guys in a suit, then later jeans and some sort of dress shirt, maybe a sport coat, gals in a sparkly cocktail dress, then pants with some sort of slinky top. Invariably, their hair will all look the same, too. You certainly couldn't tell anything about the material being performed by the costumes. Every group could be doing the exact same shows even. That to me is cookie cutter.
thank you... my point exactly. same show, different songs maybe, different color clothes maybe, different order of the exact same moves maybe, but same show. when competition rather than artistic merit became the driving force behind show choir, everyone started looking the same. even at the same school from year to year... new kids, new clothes, new songs, same show. that, to ME, is "cookie cutter".
QUOTE(CABethanprice @ Feb 3 2009, 06:25 PM) [snapback]451517[/snapback]
Via Dictionary.com
cookie cutter
–noun a device, usually of metal, for cutting shaped forms, as circles or stars, for cookies from dough that has been rolled flat.
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That was very helpful! Really added a lot! Thanks, as always Ethan.
QUOTE(Treyfizer @ Feb 2 2009, 11:30 PM) [snapback]451367[/snapback]
I just wanna know what a cookie cutter is...
Via Dictionary.com
cookie cutter
–noun a device, usually of metal, for cutting shaped forms, as circles or stars, for cookies from dough that has been rolled flat.
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Origin:
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Go to any of the companies websites that photograph competitions and look at the photos of all the groups. With rare exception does anyone look very different; usually guys in a suit, then later jeans and some sort of dress shirt, maybe a sport coat, gals in a sparkly cocktail dress, then pants with some sort of slinky top. Invariably, their hair will all look the same, too. You certainly couldn't tell anything about the material being performed by the costumes. Every group could be doing the exact same shows even. That to me is cookie cutter.
QUOTE(RyGuy86 @ Feb 3 2009, 02:29 PM) [snapback]451439[/snapback]
but totino and ankeny are probably looking the same now lol.
You would think so, but it isn't the case... They are vocally and choreographically very different. Their shows also are on the opposite of the spectrum.
As for Urbandale and Cedar Rapids Kennedy... the only similar thing is that you know Damon choreographs for both groups upon watching them. They kind of sound the same, but in my personal opinion, Kennedy sings with more musicianship and has a more true sound to them. And their shows are night and day difference.
Well Sparky, instead of being a little prick, why don't you explain yourself like we all have? There's nothing ignorant about what he put, all 5+ of those groups look VERY different, well other than CR KEn and Urby. And I havent seen them yet, but totino and ankeny are probably looking the same now lol.
But look at Clinton, same choreographers as 3 of those groups he put and I dont think they look Anything like those others so his point could be very valid.
Sparky1, for years you've always liked to attack everything I say with such hostility, no reason to be so rude, I had to learn and I have faith you can also. May Allah bless you.
So GO FAME NYC!!! Can't wait! What are everyone else's predics?? lol
edited for mistypes, spilt wine on my keyboard and it sticks now, blah!
QUOTE(Treyfizer @ Feb 3 2009, 08:27 AM) [snapback]451411[/snapback]
Well hopefully not or he would be POORLY educated in the area of midwest groups cause i can name some groups right now that conestly place well but have really different ways they do things....infact i think i will
-Urbandale
-Akney(spelling wrong)
-Cedar Rapids (in genreal)
-Totino Grace
-Mt Zion
Would you like me to keep going?
Yes... keep going. expound on your ignorance for us please
QUOTE(pplplezr @ Feb 3 2009, 12:24 AM) [snapback]451382[/snapback]
Or he could mean that all Midwestern show choir's are eerily similar.
Well hopefully not or he would be POORLY educated in the area of midwest groups cause i can name some groups right now that conestly place well but have really different ways they do things....infact i think i will
-Urbandale
-Akney(spelling wrong)
-Cedar Rapids (in genreal)
-Totino Grace
-Mt Zion
FAME New York 2009
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