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 Show Choir Community > Events > 2012 Season > Edgewood Contest of Champions 2012


Event Info


March 24th, 2012

Venue Info

Edgewood High School
601 Edgewood Drive
Ellettsville, IN 47429

Phone: (812) 876-2277

Event Details

No. of Attending Choirs:

  12 Mixed Groups
  5 Womens Groups

Judges: Unknown

Ticket Prices: Unknown

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Edgewood Contest of Champions 2012









Awards
Photos
TBA
Live Stream
Event Site


 Mixed Division - Tier I
 

Groups

 Choraliers
 Fairfield Senior High School
First Place 
Best Show Design 
Best Stage Crew 

 Express
 Troy Buchanan High School
Second Place 

 Central Sound
 Lawrence Central High School
Third Place 
Best Vocals 

 Swingsations
 Mt. Zion High School
4th Place 
Best Choreography 
Best Band 

 Singers
 Sullivan High School
5th Place 


 Mixed Division - Tier II
 

Groups in order of performance

 Innovation

 New Prairie High School
Placement Unknown 

 Soundwave

 Troy Buchanan High School
Placement Unknown 

 Center Stage

 Columbus East High School
Placement Unknown 

 Sensations

 Springfield Southeast High School
Placement Unknown 

 Goldenaires

 Decatur Central High School
Placement Unknown 

 Northern Lights

 North Oldham High School
Placement Unknown 

 Esprit

 Southwestern Jr/Sr High School
Placement Unknown 


 Womens Division
 

Groups

 Pure Elegance
 Fairfield Senior High School
First Place 

 Sweet Sensation
 Lawrence Central High School
Second Place 

 Sing Sensation

 New Prairie High School
No Placement 

 New Generation

 Sullivan High School
No Placement 

 Les Femmes

 Mt. Zion High School
No Placement 


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tscott on Mar 26, 2012, 11:09 PM
Post #36
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Would that all adjudicators operated as you do, Damon.

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goinggray on Mar 26, 2012, 1:01 AM
Post #35
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Much appreciated! No worries, and Scott, I think that's a fair way of describing how some contests and groups go about things. The best panels, in my opinion, are ones that select folks that DON'T share philosophies, but all have philosophies that are valid, educational, and open-minded to accepting things out of their normal comfort zone.

Sometimes I'll see shows that I genuinely don't care for from a selection, costuming or programming standpoint. However, if the group sings well, dances well, keeps it tasteful and "scores the sheet" really great, then it's my job as a judge to recognize and award that accordingly. The contest deserves it, the director deserves it, and the KIDS deserve it.


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onereason on Mar 25, 2012, 10:54 PM (Edited by onereason)
Post #34
+1


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As one of the judges, let me explain to you why your "determined in advance" comment is totally off-base.


Dear Damon (with whom I share friendships with 6 close friends on Facebook, but whom I have yet to personally meet),
My apologies. As soon as I wrote the term "in advance," I knew it would be misconstrued, but struggled to find an appropriate equivalent term.



QUOTE

If you saw a spreadsheet after the event, you'd see that NOT ONE of the five judges had the same rankings! Each of us has judged over 150 competitions, and each of us has a particular outlook that is completely and totally unaffected by what other judges think.

This being a point I attempted (poorly it seems) to defend, not condemn.



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we were all looking in astonishment at the spreadsheet at how diverse our opinions were.

Again, an excellent point that my post fully and completely supported and understood. I saw the strengths that each of you saw and did not wonder at all that there was such "caption scatter," as it were.



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The contest could've gone a number of ways and still been a fair, defensible, just outcome.

Yet again, my post simply attempted to explain this as best I understood it. I'd like to believe that I could have defended just about any champion that night.



QUOTE

The talent last night was staggering, and the tremendous musicianship, heart and passion shown by each and every group should be applauded and admired.

In addition, the impossible demands placed upon the judges in the face of such talent and musicianship is, by me at least, tremendously admired and appreciated.

I'd best apologize for my inarticulately expressed sentiment and shut up. Thank you, Damon, and all judges, for your continued outstanding work.


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tscott on Mar 25, 2012, 7:23 PM (Edited by tscott)
Post #33
+8
"Predetermined" as in a judge knows he will only vote for Choir X regardless of their performance? or judges caucusing before hand as to who they will all vote for? No, that doesn't happen.

However, knowing the backgrounds of a panel, as well as how those judges have scored earlier competitions, (quite easy to see patterns when the same judges are used over and over again) - the results of a given contest can be fairly accurately guessed before the contest takes place. So if a contest director wants to make a statement, wants results to come out a certain way, he knows whom to hire. And in the same vain, if a choir director wants to be confident of a win, he knows which contests to enter and which to avoid by who is on the panel.

If a panel is indeed diverse - in taste and background - usually the "strong enough overall package" does win. And that actually seems quite fair to me.




MKRChoreo on Mar 25, 2012, 3:36 PM
Post #32
 
Does anyone have a complete list of the results from yesterday?

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goinggray on Mar 25, 2012, 2:18 PM (Edited by goinggray)
Post #31
+11


QUOTE (onereason @ Mar 25 2012, 02:15 PM) *

The caption spread seems odd at first, but not so much if you saw the shows. This contest was probably determined "in advance," by which I do not cast any negative aspersion, but only mean the styles seemed so diverse as to dictate that the winner would be that group who mostly closely matched what was important to the judges and scoresheets that day.
If it had been about fantastic choreo ideas, clean tight work and a kick-butt band, Zion takes it. If the emphasis had been rich, tight, full voice vocals with delicate softs and power louds, LC wins. If it's about design, story, costumes, and spectacle, but with a strong enough overall package, Fairfield is the easy call.
I'm an LC parent, so I'd have liked to see Central Sound win, but this is the first third place finish I have absolutely no problem with. And I agree that Troy was so solid in everything, without any particular starring piece, that a first runner-up with no captions makes some sense.
I think Edgewood remains an important contest (Happy 20th!) and hope it keeps drawing the wide range of show choirs it does. Excellent contest!



As one of the judges, let me explain to you why your "determined in advance" comment is totally off-base. If you saw a spreadsheet after the event, you'd see that NOT ONE of the five judges had the same rankings! Each of us has judged over 150 competitions, and each of us has a particular outlook that is completely and totally unaffected by what other judges think. Each of us has more than 2 decades of experience, and value greatly our integrity in being fair, open-minded, and never "pre-determining" an outcome. We respect each other's opinion, but are not swayed by it. After the contest, as we went to say hello to Verda, we were all looking in astonishment at the spreadsheet at how diverse our opinions were. There were groups that one judge had in first that another had in third or fourth. This has nothing to do with anybody's qualifications, but rather is a testimony to how wonderful each of the groups were and how close they were in both talent and execution. This is WHY you try to have a qualified panel, because if you put a number of people with diverse background and experience together, their opinions and scores normally will balance out to determine a deserving set of placements.

The contest could've gone a number of ways and still been a fair, defensible, just outcome. The Edgewood folks and Verda have too much integrity to run it any other way. The talent last night was staggering, and the tremendous musicianship, heart and passion shown by each and every group should be applauded and admired.


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onereason on Mar 25, 2012, 2:15 PM
Post #30
 
The caption spread seems odd at first, but not so much if you saw the shows. This contest was probably determined "in advance," by which I do not cast any negative aspersion, but only mean the styles seemed so diverse as to dictate that the winner would be that group who mostly closely matched what was important to the judges and scoresheets that day.
If it had been about fantastic choreo ideas, clean tight work and a kick-butt band, Zion takes it. If the emphasis had been rich, tight, full voice vocals with delicate softs and power louds, LC wins. If it's about design, story, costumes, and spectacle, but with a strong enough overall package, Fairfield is the easy call.
I'm an LC parent, so I'd have liked to see Central Sound win, but this is the first third place finish I have absolutely no problem with. And I agree that Troy was so solid in everything, without any particular starring piece, that a first runner-up with no captions makes some sense.
I think Edgewood remains an important contest (Happy 20th!) and hope it keeps drawing the wide range of show choirs it does. Excellent contest!


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goinggray on Mar 25, 2012, 12:47 PM
Post #29
+5
Pretty sure Fairfield won in the ladies with Lawrence Central 1st runner-up. Also, Southwestern won in the varsity division.

Many thanks to the Edgewood folks for being tremendous hosts to the judges and running a really great competition. Lastly, the highlight of the entire day BY A MILE was the first public appearance by Verda Savage since her accident!!! She looked healthy, alive, strong, and beautiful!! She still is coming back physically, but her progress was/is nothing short of a complete miracle. Probably 1,000 folks in the auditorium when she walked onstage, and wouldn't be surprised to find out 500 of us were in tears. The cherry on top of a wonderful day! God Bless, Damon Brown


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showtime on Mar 25, 2012, 7:15 AM
Post #28
 
Single-Gender Results?

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BenHartwig on Mar 25, 2012, 3:45 AM
Post #27
 


QUOTE (hilltopev16 @ Mar 25 2012, 03:40 AM) *


Final Placements.




Well thank you for the information! It is much appreciated. congrats to everyone that performed tonight. This has always been one of my favorite competitions




hilltopev16 on Mar 25, 2012, 3:40 AM
Post #26
 


QUOTE (BeninChoraliers07 @ Mar 25 2012, 03:38 AM) *

Are these above results that awards going into the evening or are these the finals placements?



Final Placements.


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BenHartwig on Mar 25, 2012, 3:38 AM
Post #25
 
Are these above results that awards going into the evening or are these the finals placements?



hilltopev16 on Mar 25, 2012, 3:21 AM (Edited by hilltopev16)
Post #24
 
Final Placements:
GC: Fairfield (Show Design, Stage Crew)
1RU: Troy
2RU: Lawrence Central (Best Vocals)
3RU: Mt. Zion (Best Choreo, Best Band)
4RU: Sullivan

Soloist Competition:
1st-Zachary Harris--Sullivan
2nd- Morgan-Fairfield
3rd- Kelsie Keller-Mt. Zion




Jeff. on Mar 23, 2012, 1:18 AM
Post #23
 


QUOTE (09davis @ Mar 22 2012, 01:55 PM) *

Fairfield was beat by MtZ at Indy, but MtZ was not at Fame Chicago last year.


Right you are, Shane. I got caught up in that short novel I was writing thanks for the correction!


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SoundwaveSinger13 on Mar 22, 2012, 7:14 PM
Post #22
 
I am looking forward to the competition as I think it is more competitive than it has been in recent years, probably dating back to 2008 when the top 4 placings were: Sullivan, Fairfield, Mt. Zion and Troy, respectively. LC into the mix will make the top three spots very competitive and I am really excited to see how it plays out. My only wish was that there was both a day show and finals, but nevertheless it should be good.

In terms of my predictions, I definitely agree with what has been previously posted. I think Mt. Zion will take Best Choreography seeing as they have competed against some real tough powerhouses this year and still have been able to win the award. I don't see Edgewood being any different.

In terms of vocals, I am caught between Fairfield and LC. Generally, LC has very sound vocals, and I would be more confident in them had they competed against tougher choirs. But seeing as this is there last competition, I think they will edge Fairfield out in vocals.

Overall Predictions:

1st- Mt. Zion (BC)
2nd- Fairfield
3rd- LC (BV)
4th- Troy
5th- Sullivan

Again, I think any of the top three can be switched, but also I would not be surprised to see Troy bounce LC and take third.


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iloveshowchoirr on Mar 22, 2012, 2:56 PM
Post #21
 
isn't sullivans jr high going? they usually attend,


QUOTE (RicRoc59 @ Mar 19 2012, 09:57 PM) *

Here is the schedule that was emailed to director's last week.

Women's Division
8:00 AM New Prairie
8:30 AM Lawrence Central
9:00 AM Fairfield (OH)
9:30 AM Sullivan (IL)
10:00 AM Mt Zion (IL)

Varsity Division
10:30 AM New Prairie
11:00 AM Troy Buchanon (MO)
12:30 PM Columbus East
1:00 PM Springfield Southeast (IL)
1:30 PM Decatur Cental
2:00 PM North Oldham (KY)
2:30 PM Southwestern

Exhibition
3:00 PM Edgewood "New Edition"
Edgewood "Sophisticated Ladies"


Middle School Division
3:30 PM Paul Hadley
4:00 PM Mt Zion
4:30 PM Troy
5:00 PM Thomas Jefferson

Exhibition
5:30 PM Edgewood JHS "Center Stage"
Edgewood JHS "Mini Warehouse"
6:30 PM AWARDS

Championship Mixed
7:30 PM Sullivan (IL)
8:00 PM Lawrence Central
8:30 PM Troy Buchanon (MO)
9:00 PM Mt Zion (IL)
9:30 PM Fairfield (OH)

Exhibition
10:00 PM Edgewood "Music Warehouse"
10:30 PM Awards



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sdavis on Mar 22, 2012, 1:55 PM
Post #20
 
Fairfield was beat by MtZ at Indy, but MtZ was not at Fame Chicago last year.



QUOTE (jdL. @ Mar 22 2012, 04:41 AM) *

This looks about right. I think those three are the clear top three, then a small gap, Troy, bigger gap, Sullivan. It's hard to predict a winner among FF, MtZ, and LC seeing as they all have a combined 5 grand championships so far this season (or more if results haven't been updated). MtZ has had an intensely difficult competition season by going up against very strong groups every competition. LC, comparatively, hasn't seemed to have as stiff of competition - as I recall, the strongest group they've gone against so far has been Findlay First Edition who they placed second to. If LC had attended ISSMA (which I don't blame them for skipping) I might be more comfortable predicting where Central Sound would end up. Fairfield has had a quiet season in my opinion although defeated North Central this season which is a great feat since the Counterpoints won ISSMA. FF is having a very good season from what I'm hearing, but it doesn't really appear that they've "gone out there and proven it" yet. Recent competitions: FF was bested by MtZ twice last year at FAME Chicago and Indy. Not sure about LC.

Anyways, I think I'd give the Best Band caption to Fairfield and Best Choreography caption to Mt. Zion. I'd be pretty surprised if MtZ doesn't get Best Choreo after earning it at the WWS bloodbath a few weeks ago and then I'd just FF Best Band, because it's typically pretty good (and won Best Combo at Fame Indy last year). Nevertheless, it'll come down to Vocals...as it should. FF should be solid, I think LC is usually solid, and we'll see about MtZ. I'm excited, this is going to be a great competition!





Stolba on Mar 22, 2012, 1:49 PM
Post #19
 
I would put Troy ahead of LC otherwise I agree with Brockamper's predictions.



Jeff. on Mar 22, 2012, 4:41 AM (Edited by Jeff.)
Post #18
+1


QUOTE (brockamper @ Mar 22 2012, 03:33 AM) *

Random Prediction:
GC: Fairfield
1RU: Mt. Zion
2RU: Lawrence Central
3RU: Troy
4RU: Sullivan


This looks about right. I think those three are the clear top three, then a small gap, Troy, bigger gap, Sullivan. It's hard to predict a winner among FF, MtZ, and LC seeing as they all have a combined 5 grand championships so far this season (or more if results haven't been updated). MtZ has had an intensely difficult competition season by going up against very strong groups every competition. LC, comparatively, hasn't seemed to have as stiff of competition - as I recall, the strongest group they've gone against so far has been Findlay First Edition who they placed second to. If LC had attended ISSMA (which I don't blame them for skipping) I might be more comfortable predicting where Central Sound would end up. Fairfield has had a quiet season in my opinion although defeated North Central this season which is a great feat since the Counterpoints won ISSMA. FF is having a very good season from what I'm hearing, but it doesn't really appear that they've "gone out there and proven it" yet. Recent competitions: FF was bested by MtZ last year at FAME Indy. Not sure about LC.

Anyways, I think I'd give the Best Band caption to Fairfield and Best Choreography caption to Mt. Zion. I'd be pretty surprised if MtZ doesn't get Best Choreo after earning it at the WWS bloodbath a few weeks ago and then I'd just FF Best Band, because it's typically pretty good (and won Best Combo at Fame Indy last year). Nevertheless, it'll come down to Vocals...as it should. FF should be solid, I think LC is usually solid, and we'll see about MtZ. I'm excited, this is going to be a great competition!

(edited to make the correction 09davis pointed out)




brockamper on Mar 22, 2012, 3:33 AM
Post #17
 
Random Prediction:
GC: Fairfield
1RU: Mt. Zion
2RU: Lawrence Central
3RU: Troy
4RU: Sullivan



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