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  Show Choir Community    Events    2023 Season    Indiana State Small School Finals 2023


   Event Info



March 18th, 2023


Venue Info

Franklin Central High School
Robert L. Mason Auditorium
6215 South Franklin Road
Indianapolis, IN 46259

Phone: (317) 862-6646

Event Details

No. of Attending Choirs:

  9 Mixed Groups
  9 Treble Groups

Hosts:

  Indiana State School Music Association (ISSMA)

Judges:

  Arthur Lapierre (vocals)

  Adam Zrust (vocals)

  Nancy Bocek (visuals)

  Shane Rhoades (visuals)

  Thomas Marko (band)


Tickets

$13 adult per session
$11 student per session

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Indiana State Small School Finals 2023









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   Mixed Division

  

Groups

 Northern Lights
 Northridge High School
First Place 
Best Vocals 
Best Band 

 Royal Rhapsody
 Roncalli High School
Second Place 

 Varsity Singers
 Huntington North High School
Third Place 

 Red Hot Blues
 New Castle High School
4th Place 

 Pendletones
 Pendleton Heights High School
5th Place 
Best Choreography 

 City Heat
 Columbia City High School
6th Place 

 Crimson Heat
 New Palestine High School
7th Place 

 Patriot Edition
 Jay County High School
8th Place 

 Jubilaires
 Beech Grove High School
9th Place 


   Treble Division

  

Groups

 Starlights
 Northridge High School
First Place 
Best Vocals 
Best Choreography 

 Viking Volume
 Huntington North High School
Second Place 
Best Band 

 Diamond Sensations
 New Palestine High School
Third Place (TIE) 

 Emerald Suites
 Pendleton Heights High School
Third Place (TIE) 

 Just Treble
 Jay County High School
5th Place 

 Premiere Edition
 East Noble High School
6th Place 

 City Lights
 Columbia City High School
7th Place 

 Elan & Co
 Beech Grove High School
8th Place 

 Expressions
 Fairfield Jr/Sr High School
9th Place 


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MarkH on Mar 23, 2023, 11:38 AM
Post #30
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Apparently there is a black cloud over ISSMA. It's being widely reported that a judge deliberately lowered the 5x Grand Champion Roncalli (small group mixed division) scores so much that it was noticed by another judge and effectively reported. The end result cost Roncalli their 6th Championship and a state title. So far there has been no action taken that we know of on this matter. They are probably trying to sweep this under the rug and move past it. As for large groups and the complains of Center Grove and Carmel not competing... after hearing about this, I don't blame them for not competing at this competition. This is a disgrace to the show choir community! ISSMA should try to practice ethical standards that they preach in their Bylaws.




Nickgorden12 on Mar 23, 2023, 4:43 PM
Post #31
+4
How judges at state judge is not my strongest knowledge area, but to the best of my knowledge, at state, judges can change scores after they have seen all of the groups based off of what groups they have seen later in the day. This makes sense because Roncalli performed 3rd. I do agree it is strange that one judge lowered their score by a large margin, but we cannot fully determine why they did that. Judges for state are pulled from out of state(I believe) so there is no bias towards any of the groups. If they changed their score for a certain group, they must have believed that another group did better in that area.

As for another thing; multiple GC titles does not mean that a group necessarily will win state. Roncalli has a killer show this year, as does Northridge and Huntington, but both Huntington and Northridge received less GC titles this year, because of the caliber of competitions that they attended/groups they competed against. Both Northridge and Huntington North competed against large groups at many competitions, giving them less GC titles, but that does not diminish the qualities of their shows.

In summary, I do agree that something may have happened, but I think Roncalli, Northridge and Huntington all should have deserved a GC title, but we can only give one winner out.





Nickgorden12 on Mar 23, 2023, 4:46 PM
Post #32
 
There has been some mistakes in the past at state, such as last year, when scores were mixed up between groups, when the judges didn't remember which show was what. I think that ISSMA does need some reform in order to correctly judge this groups, but we cannot take away a GC title from one group and give it to another. Show choir will live on next year and (hopefully) some changes will be made


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MarkH on Mar 23, 2023, 7:12 PM
Post #33
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Thanks for your feedback Nick. The worst part is Indiana schools pay ISSMA to be a part of their organization. I think it's time to wipe that slate clean and start over. Sounds like they can't manage their way out of a paper bag. Of course they don't want us to bring up history and facts, sweep it under the rug and hope nobody is looking... We deserve better from them!


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jason1989!! on Mar 24, 2023, 3:54 PM
Post #34
+5
What has happened has happened. No need to comment this! It is clear that who won deserved it and that doesn’t mean that Roncalli isn’t amazing. Just because Roncalli won so many times does not mean they should have won state over any other group that qualified. The judges clearly placed them where they thought they should be placed. There is nothing that will be done and yes it sucks to work so hard to not win but 2nd place is still killer. All these groups did a phenomenal job and I do not think that is fair to take the very well deserved win away from Northridge show choirs!!


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SamsonVickrey on Mar 24, 2023, 10:18 PM
Post #35
 
I don't think it's really placing that's the issue. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the point margin between GC and 1st runner up was fairly substantial. I think there ought to be some sort of accountability when it comes to judging. I understand that subjectivity is in the nature of show choir, but the top 5 groups are pretty well matched. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say this, but I know for a fact one of the judges had HN in 8th place for choreography. I don't know if they were watching the band or what, but come on... really? Again, taking nothing away from the placements, congrats to all groups.


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glitznglam on Mar 25, 2023, 10:39 AM
Post #36
 
Nobody would want to take an award from another but integrity needs to be restored going forward. The score was very close.



WrenTop10 on Mar 22, 2023, 10:58 PM
Post #29
+2
If anyone is interested in a show choir podcast, I’m currently hosting one called “Midwest Sound” that covers all things show choir in Indiana! In the most recent episode, I cover this competition and the large state finals! Here is the link: Podcast Link

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Jhilty16 on Mar 18, 2023, 9:23 PM
Post #21
 
What happened with Pendleton?


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quadam19 on Mar 19, 2023, 3:45 PM
Post #23
+4
ISSMA happened ????


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Jhilty16 on Mar 19, 2023, 3:53 PM
Post #24
 
I guess?


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ethansstearns on Mar 22, 2023, 8:57 PM
Post #28
 
DIAMOND SENSATIONS HAPPENED



Jeff. on Mar 20, 2023, 2:28 PM
Post #27
+5
There have been conflicting posts here in the comments about the small mixed placements, so just to clarify: what's listed above for small mixed is correct.

It appears as though ISSMA changed their rules this year and only formally announced top 4 placements instead of celebrating the placements of all of their finalist choirs like they have in years past. Instead they simply announced the other choirs with state finalist participation trophies. This seemed to cause confusion and then as a result different choirs/directors shared their placement to their students/parents/fans anyways. I'm not interested in diving into the logistics of ISSMA, but just to say on SCC we simply want to accurately represent every choir.


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Cyle18 on Mar 19, 2023, 6:36 PM
Post #26
 
Jay county got 9th New pal got 8th and beach grove got 7 th

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Cyle18 on Mar 19, 2023, 5:38 PM
Post #25
 
Columbia City City Heat got 6th

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Jhilty16 on Mar 19, 2023, 2:21 PM
Post #22
 
Patriot was 8th



Emkfocht on Mar 18, 2023, 9:20 PM
Post #20
+3
Congratulations to both Northridge groups!!! Proud alum here<3

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Btgrieser on Mar 18, 2023, 9:18 PM
Post #19
+1
GC: Northridge
1 RU: Roncalli
2 RU: Huntington North
3 RU: New Castle

Best visuals: Pendleton
Best vocals and Band : Northridge


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cj-mckay on Mar 18, 2023, 9:18 PM
Post #18
+2
Small mixed results:
4th: new castle
3rd: Huntington north
Best instrumental: northridge
Best vocal: northridge
Best visual: Pendleton heights
2nd: Roncali
GC: northridge


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BaileyS_VV on Mar 18, 2023, 2:00 PM
Post #14
 
Does anyone know where or how you can buy the dvd of the performances?


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cj-mckay on Mar 18, 2023, 2:21 PM
Post #16
+1
No dvds for sale


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