What we need is for Los als two top groups to go against both Burroughs top two group as well as Burbank throw in Clinton spectrum Franklin central high voltage, Wheaton warrenvilles waubosie south sound check and make it fame national finals boom done
What we “need” is for people to celebrate how great THIS competition is going to be. It’s a deep lineup mixing different circuits throughout the country. The schedule makes it even more competitive. Let’s enjoy this one instead of complaining that not all the “best” groups will be competing here. The vast majority of show choirs in America would be extremely grateful just to make finals at this already very difficult competition.
I think someone needs to make a competition for all the #1 choirs to compete against each other. Yes winning nationals is a huge accomplishment but imagine the feeling of winning against schools as good as you are. Sometimes I feel like everyone thinks/knows losal is going to win cause of how amazing they are but wouldn’t it be the best feeling of winning when you don’t know if you will win?
I mean, for all the hype that they get, I can understand that opinion. In all honesty, I haven't liked their shows as much after the 2016 Carnival show, but everything about a Clinton show is executed perfectly and performed convincingly. That's why Clinton cannot be beaten.
Clinton isn't all that great (to you) is cool because you're entitled to your opinion. I'm just curious as to what more they would have to do to be considered great in your eyes. As if their current winning streak of 18 consecutive Grand Championships (with zero loss of captions) wasn't enough lol.
Go look at some of the competitions Clinton has attended in recent years: Glenwood 2019, Los Alamitos 2018, 2016, and 2014, FAME Orlando 2015, etc. You don't consider any of those competing groups great? Because to me it looks like some of the best groups in the nation, and Clinton beat all of them. Not trying to argue, but you can't say Clinton rarely goes against great groups when they compete against (and sweep) several of the best groups in the nation every year.
Petal, John Burrough's, Ankeny Centennial, Westside High School, Marysville High School, Wheaton Warrenville South, Center Grove, MT. Zion, Carmel, Twinsburg, Shepard Hill. These are some amazing groups they've bested in the past 4 years. They "rarely" go against great groups? I'm just not seeing the logic in that statement. To each their own I suppose... <3
If memory serves me well, the scores weren’t close in any of their victories in the last four years as well with the exception of Auburn 2019 at Jasper (9 points), and Homewood 2017 at Petal (10 points). To Max’s point, they almost never face competition in the South outside of the occasional encounter with a strong Homewood, Petal, or Auburn, but there’s always a national competition on their schedule, and they usually sweep that too. Competition strength is relative, though. Think about it, what groups are realistically on Clinton’s level? Los Alamitos, John Burroughs, and Burbank.
Wow, this year's obligatory "Is Clinton Really All That Good" conversation happened early in the season!!
Few, if any, groups have been as consistently excellent as Clinton, and I love them. I do wish they would compete with Los Al. And, I wish they'd go up against Burbank and Burroughs--- in a place that is NOT Los Al's competition. Ultimately, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
Returning to this competition: if anyone can take Los Al, it would be North Central. No matter how it shakes out, you're looking at a full lineup of well-executed and very entertaining shows.
Yall I think we can agree we CANT use winning streaks to say if Clinton is the best. While yes, they do have the longest streak, they aren't facing consistently top tiered chords every week (for obvious reasons). For instance, Los Al, Burroughs, and Burbank compete almost every weekend with each other, with minuscule differences in points each comp. It is almost impossible to maintain a winning streak. Otherwise I think these three would have much higher winning streaks. While yes Clinton has beaten these choirs (minus Los Al) and more, there's no way to tell unless each top tiered choir faced off with their strongest show ever. Besides that, its all subjective. I mean I'm from Ohio. At this point we can't even decide who's the "best." Everything has changed every single year.
Oh most definitely. It shows their prowess, especially since they usually only compete out of state once a year. It shows that they are a force to be reckoned with. Honestly though, we need to see a Los Al vs Clinton showdown at a minimum cause that would be chaotic.