Los Alamitos High School 3591 Cerritos Ave. Los Alamitos, CA 90720
Phone: (562) 799-4780
No. of Attending Choirs:
3 Mixed Groups (Tier I)
6 Mixed Groups (Tier II)
5 Mixed Groups (Tier III)
4 Mixed Groups (Tier III)
5 Mixed Groups (Tier IV)
4 Mixed Groups (Tier IV)
4 Mixed Groups (Tier IV)
2 Womens Groups (Tier I)
6 Womens Groups (Tier II)
5 Womens Groups (Tier III)
3 Mens Groups
2 Mens Groups
4 Mixed Middle School Groups
2 Girls Middle School Groups
Los Al is a great destination trip opportunity for out of state choirs, but can you imagine making a big trip like this across the country as an IN, MS, or AL kid and not even competing against a single CA choir at one of the largest show choir events in the nation? It’s bizarre and kind of a missed opportunity. This isn't really the fault of Los Al Xtravaganza, but I do think it's a shame that the "advanced” Mixed Tier II choirs put themselves in this artificially lower tier especially when these are huge schools with lots of talent and are tradition-rich programs.
This is obviously speaking to a larger conversation surrounding CA divisions, resources, equity, etc. Tier I only consisting of Burbank, Burroughs, and Los Al (and Brea) sometimes makes for an incredibly boring circuit when Tier I is non-competitive, depleted with one of them hosting, they choose not to attend a comp, or a combination of the above. And I don’t blame those “big 3” for this - they have their own set of priorities. The system in California is puzzling. Many of these Tier II choirs have competed nationally and/or in other regions and been in Tier I at those events and they usually place at those events, yet keep themselves down in Tier II within CA. Like I get “the big 3” are incredible, among the best in the nation, and it may be difficult to compete against them. But don’t you also think Southern choirs may feel that way about Clinton? Or Indiana choirs constantly in bloodbaths week-to-week placing first one week and maybe fourth the next as the density and level of competition in Indiana is literally off the charts? Sure, 100%, there’s more to life and show choir than competition and divisions. Ultimately, it’s really not that big of a deal. I personally find more merit and pride in competing among the best and maybe getting a 4th or 5th placement than taking 1st or 2nd in a lower division.
As I said, I just find the system puzzling. Using skill level (advanced, intermediate, and novice) is good! It’s a wonderful metric. But how in the heck did it spiral into SEVEN different mixed divisions?! There’s no good reason to have that many tiers. I mean I know the Midwest and other places do things weird sometimes, but at least at the end of the day those tiers are mostly an illusion for prelims only and everyone’s competing against one another anyways for the finalist spots. And I get California doesn’t do finals. The Northeast along with many Southern and Midwest events also don’t hold finals and still don’t have 7 (!!!) mixed divisions. Seriously y’all I feel like I’m having a brain aneurysm bc I cannot comprehend 7 mixed divisions. That’s just crazy town and I’m internally screaming. In summary, I’m really not trying to talk down on the Bonita Vistas and Harts of Tier II, because clearly I think the duplicate intermediate and triple novice divisions are equally nonsensical. Again, it seems like the intent is good in having advanced, intermediate, and novice divisions but that somehow it spiraled out of control. By all means, if someone is super passionate about why 7 (!!!!!!!) mixed divisions or the current state of the CA circuit is superior, feel free to make your case. I don’t claim to be right or all knowing and I’m certainly not a CA show choir historian. Just as someone who keeps up with show choir on a national scale this is wild, my brain cannot compute, and it's a lot more simple everywhere else.
TL;DR: It’d be nice if the CA Tier II choirs bumped up to compete against the out of state choirs. 7 divisions is crazy town. I might be having a stroke.
The Clinton analogy is spot on. I've thought the split into two tiers at the top level was a huge mistake from the beginning (it's all current students are used to, but it's actually been this way less than a decade), and I'm also of the school of thought that the second tier really should be for prep groups (i.e., when you have more than one mixed choir at your school). I know there are some schools that actually have three show choirs of the same type in their program (Los Al is actually one of them - they have three women's groups), but those are pretty rare. I really wish SoCal would re-examine the way they are doing things.
Personally it seems absurd to me that there are so many different tiers in California when there are no finals. Both Bonita Vista and Hart would be the 3rd biggest high school in the state of Alabama and the biggest in the state of Mississippi. I think using skill levels is a good idea for competitions, but when 2 groups routinely win in a tier that isn't the highest available, it might be time to move up to the next.
Cool thanks for pointing that out. Everything should be updated above! (Also I recognize it says PM instead of 12:05 AM and 12:30 AM for Mixed Tier III, but that's just a glitch for some reason... probably because performing that late is ridiculous and the site rejects that notion. I'm sure Haakon can fix it though.
It looks like they actually have six different levels of high school mixed divisions, and our system isn't set up to accommodate that right now. I must say, the number of divisions at these things is getting a little out of control...
No skeptics here! They attend every other year, and it looks like their biggest and only competition lined up so far is Carmel (in their division.) Neither Burroughs nor Burbank will be in attendance this year, unfortunately. The full schedule is usually posted late February/early March, but the website says Feb. 1st and we've got our fingers crossed! I'd love to see another Tier I group on the lineup, but two groups traveling thousands of miles for this three day show-choir-fest is certainly nothing to complain about