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 Show Choir Community > Events > 2018 > Solon Show Choir Invitational 2018




Event Info


March 3rd, 2018

Venue Info

Solon High School
33600 Inwood Rd.
Solon, OH 44139

Phone: (440) 349-6230

Event Details

No. of Attending Choirs:

  12 Mixed Groups
  4 Womens Groups
  1 Mens Groups
  3 Middle School Groups

Hosts:

  Solon "Music in Motion"

Judges:

  Jeff Clark
  Michael Conley
  Jarad Voss
  Robin Whitty-Novotny
  Nancy Slife Benko (Finals)

Ticket Prices:

All Day:

$15 - Adults
$10 - Students

Event Website: Click Here

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Solon Show Choir Invitational 2018



 Finals
 

Groups

 First Edition
 Findlay High School
Grand Champion 
Best Vocals 
Best Band 
Best Crew 
Best Costumes 

 Ambassadors
 Carmel High School
First Runner Up 
Best Choreography 
Best Male Soloist (Ayden Stewart) 
Best Male Performer (Erik Sullivan) 

 Swingers Unlimited
 Marysville High School
Second Runner Up 
Best Show 
Best Female Soloist (Peyton Cooper) 

 Touch of Class
 Grove City High School
3rd Runner Up 

 Music Express
 Garfield Heights High School
4th Runner Up 

 Harmony Gold
 Walsh Jesuit High School
5th Runner Up 
Best Set Design 


 Mixed Division - Tier I (Prelims)
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 Mixed Division - Tier II (Prelims)
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 Mixed Division - Tier III (Prelims)
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 Single-Gender Division
 

Groups

 Accents
 Carmel High School
First Place 

 Class Act
 Grove City High School
Second Place 

 Glitter & Gold

 Scranton High School
No Placement 

 Mood Swingers

 Twinsburg High School
No Placement 

 Boys'R'Us

 Twinsburg High School
No Placement 


 Middle School Division
 

Groups

 RBC Singers
 RB Chamberlain Middle School
First Place 
Best Choreography 

 Show Choir
 Miller South School for Visual and Performing Arts
No Placement 
Best Vocals 

 Spark of Class

 Jackson Middle School
No Placement 


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Rocksomesocks310 on Mar 6, 2018, 1:20 AM (Edited by Rocksomesocks310)
Post #66
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Finals Round Score Breakdown

Judges: Jeff Clark, Michael Conley, Robin Whitty-Novotny, Jarad Voss, Nancy Benko

VOCAL RANKINGS
(1) Findlay First Edition: 1 1 2 1 1
(2) Carmel Ambassadors: 3 2 1 1 4
(3) Marysville Swingers Unlimited: 2 3 3 3 1
(4) Grove City Touch of Class: 4 4 4 3 3
(5) Garfield Heights Music Express: 5 5 5 5 5
(6) Walsh Jesuit Harmony Gold: 6 6 6 6 6

CHOREOGRAPHY RANKINGS
(3) Findlay First Edition: 2 4 2 5 2
(1) Carmel Ambassadors: 2 1 1 1 3
(2) Marysville Swingers Unlimited: 1 2 3 2 1
(4) Grove City Touch of Class: 4 4 5 3 3
(5) Garfield Heights Music Express: 5 3 4 3 5
(6) Walsh Jesuit Harmony Gold: 6 6 6 6 6

BAND/COMBO RANKINGS
(1) Findlay First Edition: 1 1 1 1 1
(4) Carmel Ambassadors: 4 3 2 5 4
(2) Marysville Swingers Unlimited: 2 2 2 2 2
(3) Grove City Touch of Class: 3 3 4 2 3
(5) Garfield Heights Music Express: 5 5 5 4 5
(6) Walsh Jesuit Harmony Gold: 6 6 6 6 6

SHOW RANKINGS:
(2) Findlay First Edition: 1 1 1 2 2
(3) Carmel Ambassadors: 3 3 1 2 2
(1) Marysville Swingers Unlimited: 1 1 3 1 1
(4) Grove City Touch of Class: 4 4 4 4 4
(5) Garfield Heights Music Express: 5 5 6 4 4
(6) Walsh Jesuit Harmony Gold: 6 6 4 6 6

OVERALL RANKINGS
(T1 - Findlay wins with higher vocal score) Findlay First Edition: 1 1 2 3 2
(T1) Carmel Ambassadors: 3 2 1 1 4
(3) Marysville Swingers Unlimited: 2 3 3 2 1
(4) Grove City Touch of Class: 4 4 4 4 3
(5) Garfield Heights Music Express: 5 5 5 5 5
(6) Walsh Jesuit Harmony Gold: 6 6 6 6 6


VOCAL POINTS
(1) Findlay First Edition: 38 38 38 38 38 = 190
(2) Carmel Ambassadors: 34 36 40 38 34 = 182
(3) Marysville Swingers Unlimited: 36 34 36 36 38 = 180
(4) Grove City Touch of Class: 32 32 34 36 36 = 170
(5) Garfield Heights Music Express: 28 30 32 32 32 = 154
(6) Walsh Jesuit Harmony Gold: 26 28 30 30 28 = 142

CHOREOGRAPHY POINTS
(3) Findlay First Edition: 27 24 27 24 27 = 129
(1) Carmel Ambassadors: 27 28.5 28.5 30 25.5 = 139.5
(2) Marysville Swingers Unlimited: 28.5 27 25.5 28.5 28.5 = 138
(T4) Grove City Touch of Class: 25.5 24 22.5 25.5 25.5 = 123
(T4) Garfield Heights Music Express: 24 25.5 24 25.5 24 = 123
(6) Walsh Jesuit Harmony Gold: 19.5 21 21 19.5 19.5 = 100.5

BAND/COMBO POINTS
(1) Findlay First Edition: 14.25 15 14.25 15 15 = 73.5
(4) Carmel Ambassadors: 12 12.75 13.5 12 12 = 62.25
(2) Marysville Swingers Unlimited: 13.5 14.25 13.5 14.25 14.25 = 69.75
(3) Grove City Touch of Class: 12.75 12.75 12.75 14.25 13.5 = 66
(5) Garfield Heights Music Express: 10.5 12 12 12.75 11.25 = 58.5
(6) Walsh Jesuit Harmony Gold: 9 11.25 11.25 11.25 9.75 = 52.5

SHOW POINTS
(2) Findlay First Edition: 14.25 14.25 14.25 14.25 13.5 = 70.5
(3) Carmel Ambassadors: 13.5 13.5 14.25 14.25 13.5 = 69
(1) Marysville Swingers Unlimited: 14.25 14.25 13.5 15 15 = 72
(4) Grove City Touch of Class: 12 12.75 12 13.5 12.75 = 63
(5) Garfield Heights Music Express: 11.25 12 11.25 13.5 12.75 = 60.75
(6) Walsh Jesuit Harmony Gold: 10.5 9.75 12 10.5 11.25 = 54

POINTS GRAND TOTAL
(1) Findlay First Edition: 93.5 91.25 93.5 91.25 93.5 = 463
(3) Carmel Ambassadors: 86.5 90.75 96.25 94.25 85 = 452.75
(2) Marysville Swingers Unlimited: 92.25 89.5 88.5 93.75 95.75 = 459.75
(4) Grove City Touch of Class: 82.25 81.5 81.25 89.25 87.75 = 422
(5) Garfield Heights Music Express: 73.75 79.5 79.25 83.75 80 = 396.25
(6) Walsh Jesuit Harmony Gold: 65 70 74.25 71.25 68.5 = 349





paladin25 on Mar 6, 2018, 1:50 AM
Post #67
 
For the record, this was not golf scoring, but consensus ranking, so the explanation above is incorrect. The simple addition of the points is not how final placements were determined. In reality, Carmel and Findlay were tied for first. They each had the same number of first place votes. As stated in the rules, the tie breaker was vocal scores.


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Rocksomesocks310 on Mar 6, 2018, 3:03 AM
Post #68
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My apologies, I wasn't aware of how the scoring worked. Fixed above!

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Chorale1 on Mar 4, 2018, 10:42 PM
Post #65
 
Just wondering if the middle school scores are available... Does anyone know?



j.shafer11 on Mar 4, 2018, 2:11 PM
Post #63
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Middle School
GC: RB Chamberlian
BV: Miller South
BC: RB Chamberlian



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Chorale1 on Mar 4, 2018, 9:25 PM
Post #64
 
Are the scores available for the middle schools?



Jasoonmurraay on Mar 4, 2018, 2:07 PM
Post #62
+1
Best male soloist was Ayden Stewart (Carmel)
Best male performer was Erik Sullivan (Carmel)




j.shafer11 on Mar 4, 2018, 4:50 AM
Post #61
+1
Final Results-
GC: Findlay
1RU: Carmel
2RU: Marysville
3RU: Grove City
4RU: Garfield Heights
5RU: Walsh Jesuit
BV: Findlay
BC: Carmel
BB: Findlay
Best Show: Marysville




j.shafer11 on Mar 4, 2018, 12:43 AM
Post #60
+1
Best female soloist was Peyton Cooper (Marysville)



NickAngiocchi on Mar 3, 2018, 11:39 PM
Post #55
 
Will awards be on live feed?


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EKline on Mar 4, 2018, 12:41 AM
Post #58
 
yes


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EKline on Mar 4, 2018, 12:42 AM (Edited by EKline)
Post #59
 




Max noble on Feb 28, 2018, 9:26 PM
Post #20
 
Why is Carmel in tier 2




paladin25 on Feb 28, 2018, 9:52 PM
Post #21
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Divisions are determined by the number of S/D. The cut offs are 35 S/D and below are Div C, 36 to 45 are Div B and 46 and up Div A. Carmel has 44 S/D.




Max noble on Feb 28, 2018, 10:26 PM
Post #24
+2
Weird




Jeff. on Feb 28, 2018, 10:33 PM
Post #25
 
Weird in what sense, Max?




Max noble on Feb 28, 2018, 11:06 PM
Post #26
 
Just didn’t know that they were tier 2


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bheyneman on Mar 1, 2018, 12:23 AM (Edited by bheyneman)
Post #27
+3
I kind of get where Max is coming from, considering that Carmel has 5000 students in their high school.




Jeff. on Mar 1, 2018, 1:12 AM
Post #28
 
Well, yeah, that's why I asked. These are discussion boards after all! I didn't know whether it was like a "hey, it's weird seeing Carmel in Tier II since they're a top notch choir" or a "this classification system of number of singers is weird." But really Max's response was "just didn't know," so essentially he used "weird" just to say "ok" which in and of itself is a weird way to say ok.




Max noble on Mar 1, 2018, 1:22 AM
Post #29
 
True




Max noble on Mar 1, 2018, 1:23 AM
Post #30
 
Also it is weird that such an amazing group is in tier 2




Häakon on Mar 1, 2018, 11:07 AM
Post #31
 
I think this is why finals should just be tier 1 only; it will solve this problem reaaaally quickly. Either that or just have separate finals for the different divisions, which seems to be a popular trend this year. I guess I'm down with it for the girls, but I don't think we really need this many tiers in the first place...




Alex. on Mar 1, 2018, 8:09 PM
Post #32
+9
Or no finals at all! Who can argue with being in home and in bed by 10:30?




KEVDOUG on Mar 1, 2018, 8:42 PM (Edited by KEVDOUG)
Post #33
+2
I blame Ohio schools. For some reason naming winners of different classes is popular. I've always thought that if you are going to separate them, then separate them. No offense, who cares who wins class A, B or C when you are all advanced mixed groups?!?




José™ on Mar 1, 2018, 10:59 PM
Post #34
+1
It is kinda weird for me, but not for the same reasons as max. For this particular competition I don't think tiers really mean anything considering how they are decided. To basically all the competitions I have attended, Tier II consists mainly of prep groups with no consideration of how many singer dancers they have. For example if my group were to be going to this competition, we would be Tier II, but we always compete advanced mixed or tier I. If they were to only make finals tier I and had tiers based on number of s/d, an amazing group like Carmel would not make finals at this particular competition. Having individual finals for tiers is just a lot and I cannot imagine the organization that it takes to do that, so I commend all competitions that do that as so many have started to do. I firmly believe that competitions WITH finals should yes, have advanced mixed , prep, and Single-Gender tiers, but for all of them to be judged the same and get placed in their tier in prelims, but whoever scores high enough to make finals, makes finals, not just make one or two tiers eligible. In addition, for whatever tier they compete in to be up to the discretion of the director like it is most of the time. However, personally, I have grown to love no finals. One and done, quick and easy, and I go to bed the same day I started the competition! lol




Häakon on Mar 2, 2018, 12:04 AM
Post #35
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QUOTE

If they were to only make finals tier I and had tiers based on number of s/d, an amazing group like Carmel would not make finals at this particular competition.


That's exactly the point. Carmel shouldn't be in Tier II, and I would bet you that if only Tier I was finals eligible, they would make sure they were up in the advanced division.



QUOTE

I firmly believe that competitions WITH finals should yes, have advanced mixed , prep, and Single-Gender tiers, but for all of them to be judged the same and get placed in their tier in prelims, but whoever scores high enough to make finals, makes finals, not just make one or two tiers eligible.


I guess the point is why even have divisions if you are just going to judge everyone the same? The ultra-purist would probably say throw everyone into one pot and then whoever scores in the top six makes finals. I like divisions, however, because I believe that there are schools who don't have the same resources or numbers to compete at the highest levels, and they shouldn't be penalized for that. There are also many schools with different tiers of groups at the same school (i.e., advanced and prep) and the secondary tier shouldn't be competing against the most advanced groups. That's why it is nice to have a separate tiers so that choirs can compete at their appropriate level. But then to turn around and say Tier II is then eligible for finals seems silly - because if they can hang with the best of the groups, why aren't they competing against them in the first place?

This kinda all goes back to the endless discussion of how to separate choirs - based on school size, choir size, or skill level. I maintain that skill level is the best method because while school and/or choir size absolutely can have an affect on a choir's ability, it doesn't always. Carmel in Tier II is obvious proof. But however groups are sorted, I think they should just be judged against their respective competitors - otherwise it really just says that at the end of the day, divisions don't really serve much purpose.





KEVDOUG on Mar 2, 2018, 12:23 AM
Post #36
+1
Many times divisions mean nothing in Ohio and I believe that is how it is here. They evenly split the divisions based off of school size and you are assigned one. The divisional awards only matter for extra trophies. I think we all agree that they should mean something.




KEVDOUG on Mar 2, 2018, 12:24 AM
Post #37
 





José™ on Mar 2, 2018, 12:34 AM
Post #38
 
I guess it is just really up to the competition and those going to the competitions. Like Chatham, or like Troy this year for example, have like my example of different competing tiers, but all eligible for finals. There are separate tiers, they compete separately in prelims, but then any group at the competition is eligible for finals. It works, they are placed in their own divisions, but are competing against more than just those in their division. The perfect example of competing in a different tier, but hanging with big groups is how Carmel's girl group won their division, and placed 7th overall at chatham, points away from making finals! However, this doesn't really do anything for my point, as it just makes more questions about divisions. So I really don't know. This might just be an inconsistency among competitions that is not gonna get solved. It's just fun to see how different competitions address tiers!




casual.kyle on Mar 2, 2018, 12:38 AM
Post #39
 
I absolutely agree with this. My personal belief is that divisions should exist and be divided by skill level of a choir (decided by the director of the choir or the host of the comp) but every tier should be eligible for finals. That way, the smaller or newer programs get the recognition they deserve in their tier, but aren’t locked out of finals by virtue of being a small or new program. Also with this system, awards in every tier have a meaning and purpose. Instead of saying “oh wow a shiny trophy” they say “you did this the best out of everyone else in your skill level, and you should be proud”




Häakon on Mar 2, 2018, 12:40 AM
Post #40
+1
I don't see a reason why it can't be solved, it just takes directors willing to get together and talk about it and come up with a consensus.


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Sumo1dog on Mar 3, 2018, 2:15 PM
Post #42
+2
I don't agree that choirs should be divided up by "skill" because that's completely subjective..In addition, just look at some of the comments posted by people, and no offense to Max, but it can easily be interpreted that by saying Carmel is such a great group, why is it in tier 2, its degrading to all other choirs and their work. By diving them up into different categories, it can really be disheartening. It's like saying "youre in the crap division, youre in the meh division, and you're in the best ever division." Plus this year has seen some really "meh" choirs overtake powerhouses. These subjective divisions overestimate the big groups and underestimate the small ones.


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Sumo1dog on Mar 3, 2018, 2:16 PM
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tscott on Mar 3, 2018, 11:58 PM
Post #57
+1
This discussion is why I'm a firm believer that there should be NO tiers or classes, UNLESS a school has more than one group and one can be designated advanced, the other, prep etc. Anything else falls into the "everyone gets a trophy" mindset. (But, hey I also shed a tear when Indiana adopted class basketball, the last state to do so; even made NPR with that story that day. Sue me, I'm old.)


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